Coffee 1-25-14

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PostBy: Rob R. On: Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:31 am

Lisa, they don't have block heaters on the buses? I suppose it isn't normally needed in your area, but for the small cost I am surprised the buses don't with them.

Lots of people in my area reported problems with diesel fuel gelling this past week. I guess the pre-treated fuel everyone is getting from Canada isn't treated very well. Cloud point is a lot higher than it is supposed to be...goes back to what my dad said about the subzero weather keeping people honest.

If you need a piece of equipment to start in any weather, it is best to treat the fuel yourself, and use a block heater...oil pan heater also if you don't care for synthetic engine oil.

My dad has a GMC Suburban that came from Fairbanks, Alaska. It has a block heater, oil pan heater, transmission heater, and a battery warmer. Plug it in for a few hours and it will happily start in any weather...without scarey noises and with FAST interior heat.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

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PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:46 am

Damn, that would take one hell of a gang box to plug in 200 block heaters :clap: toothy
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Re: Coffee 1-25-14

PostBy: titleist1 On: Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:47 am

Good morning all.... Like lowfog said last week, all you sailors take warning, we had a deep red sky here this morning.

It sure looked nice with all that color. There are some heavier clouds that moved in since then so maybe we'll get some snow again today. I haven't paid much attention to the weather since the last snow storm. I know it's going to be extra cold for another week and the details don't matter much to me! How does that long range forecast look for the Superbowl? If Peyton Manning comes out of the huddle and sees a blizzard does that mean 6 more weeks of winter?!

With the extreme cold I had to figure a way to get some heat into the outside bin the last two days to fix the coal bridging from from ice so I could keep using the coal vac. The cure so far is to use the leaf blower feature of the shop vac to blow the warm stove-side air into the shop vac hose out into the bin for about 5 minutes. Apparently that is enough to melt it and then I switch it around to vac mode and it works to fill the barrel. This is still better than what I was doing before. I need to stock up on coal next summer and give it a chance to dry out through the fall so that it isn't so damp when it goes into the outside bin.

I'll be playing janitor today for the spouses cleaning business. The PT places she has a contract for are all open most of today because of the missed appts earlier this week due to snow. Usually she has all weekend from when they close on Friday to get them done before Monday, but with the compressed schedule she needs the extra hands to get them done. Besides that, today's chore will be moving snow away from the coal bunker so I can get the loader there when I need to refill the outside bin.

Have a great day everyone! :)
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite


Re: Coffee 1-25-14

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:52 am

freetown fred wrote:Damn, that would take one hell of a gang box to plug in 200 block heaters :clap: toothy


I missed the 200 part. That would be a lot of lead cords. :lol: Underground conduit with a post and outlet box every so often would be a cleaner solution, but for a once per year event it would be a huge cost. Cheaper just to let them idle overnight. 8-)
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Coffee 1-25-14

PostBy: EarthWindandFire On: Sat Jan 25, 2014 8:57 am

If they were allowed to add K-1 Kerosene to the diesel it wouldn't gel up at that temperature. It takes minus 55 degrees for pure kerosene to gel and become unusable.
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Leisure Line Lil' Heater.
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer model 75.
Other Heating: Oil and Natural Gas.

Re: Coffee 1-25-14

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:01 am

EarthWindandFire wrote:If they were allowed to add K-1 Kerosene to the diesel it wouldn't gel up at that temperature. It takes minus 55 degrees for pure kerosene to gel and become unusable.


we used a 60/40 blend in winter on the farm for as long as I can remember. Do the limits on sulfur have a hand in this? To my knowledge kero doesn't have to meet the ULSD standards, so it is probably illegal to mix it with road fuel.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

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PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:16 am

Seems Our "Good Friends" at the EPA don't care about Cold Weather Diesel Viability or Cold Weather Commerce one bit. It's a shame when Legal-Minded,Law Abiding Americans have to come up with what works to keep going in what I consider a Real Winter. :mad: All that being said,Man,Is it ever good to make it back to Freddy's! Took Mrs. Hambden to work this morning after we got the "Big Carry-Out Smash-Size" Cups O'Java for the Road. Twas' like driving inside a Wind-Blown Cotton Ball! Oh,by the way Freddy,Mrs.Ham Commented that your Pre-Groundhog Day Apron was striking! And Fred,she noticed your "Come-On Spring" Ensemble of Cargo Pants Shorts,"Coal's Hot!" Sweatshirt coupled with the Woolrich Tall Wool Socks cheered her up ! We'll both be stopping in for Lunch after I've picked her up around noon! Hell of a Date fer a coupla Oldies! Stay Warm,Check In and Keep Digging,Gang!! :up:
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PostBy: lsayre On: Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:18 am

How does Canada handle things like this? Do their school buses start when it's cold outside?
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Re: Coffee 1-25-14

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Sat Jan 25, 2014 9:52 am

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On another note... im not sure you guys have been hearing about all the house fires near me lately........[/quote]

Good mornin' all glad to be warm and hungry and blueberry pancakes sound awesome, if you don't mind I'll only have 4 or 5 (new years resolution) :lol:

Dougie boy the fire fighters save 4 or 5 foundations a week in Maine and 99.9% of the time an unattended wood stove is the cause...others electrical and I'm sure that means overloaded circuits with electric heaters. Did I say how much I love heating with coal! Have a nice week end all.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant 2310, gold marc box, vogelzang pot belly coat rack
Coal Size/Type: Pea, and a little nut
Other Heating: Very cold FHA oil furnace

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PostBy: KLook On: Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:15 am

Thanks for the coffee Freddy, it is cold all the way down here and beyond. I told the locals it would follow me, just the way things are.

Lisa, the coyotes you mention are moving OUT of the east, Maine to be exact. They will be coming to your area also. They were released into Maine. Precursor to wolves, they are a hybrid interbred with Grey wolves. They are much larger and more aggressive then "normal" coyotes. A large coyote would run between 30 to 40 pounds max. These critters go from the 40 up to 65 and better. Probably you can blame the State of Maine Biologists that wanted an exotic animal to study and write papers on to further their careers, Moose, bear, and deer are old hat you know. And groups like RESTORE the North Woods, who advocate releasing real wolves into Maine and have for many years now. Liberal idiocy come to the country near you.

Have a great weekend everyone and stay warm! The news reports that there are virtually no electric heaters available in this region as people are trying to stay warm and they are asking everyone to turn off anything not needed. Yeah right, good luck with that!

Kevin
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Harman VF 3000
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Stove/Furnace Make: Harman (Back In Maine)
Stove/Furnace Model: VF 3000

Re: Coffee 1-25-14

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:30 am

lsayre wrote:How does Canada handle things like this? Do their school buses start when it's cold outside?


Not Canada, but I'm close. :) My school parks their buses in a heated building, and the school in the next town parks them outside with block heaters.
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

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PostBy: SMITTY On: Sat Jan 25, 2014 10:47 am

Leave it to the government to take what works, and morph it into a complicated and expensive mess. :mad: DOT will crucify anyone if they check the diesel tank and it's not bluish-green, indicating you paid the cartel their extortion "feee", aka ROAD TAX. Probably get 20 years now for adding kerosene, because it doesn't meet "clean air" standards. Par for the course ... :sick:

Went to bed, it was 12° ... and now it's 25° and howling wind. Perfect day to do a brake job outdoors. Get to do a Dodge pickup - front brakes only, so "SHOULD" be easy ... :|

Coal consumption is WAY up over what I calculated for the first month (end of Oct. to end of Nov.). I figured as much, with the weather. Still using a hair less than the stove did, so I'm happy. All told consumption is WAY down .. AND this is the coldest winter in the 9 years of burning coal for us. That, and there's ghost flow to the indirect. All good signs as far as consumption goes. I might actually be able to afford to heat this place after all! :lol:

We have packs of coyotes all around here. They usually stay away from the houses, as there;s plenty of house cats, rabbits, & squirrels for them to munch on out in the woods. Can always hear them when they get a kill. Sometimes they;ll stray close and try to pack up on the neighbor's dog. They get lead poisoning when that happens ...and they're smart animals - haven't been seen here since. Lots of fox tracks all over my yard, which is normal. They usually den on the hill back there, just 100' from the house. I'll find turkey carcasses in the yard when they move in - that's how I know when the hole is occupied. Looks like either a big coyote or a bobcat has been hitting the garbage pile across the street - saw some good sized tracks there.

Can't believe how VA got 6x the amount of snow we got here! We got 1/2" out of that storm. Was a total joke. They cancelled most lines of business, and had a 2 hour delay for schools ... all for less than an inch of snow. What a joke! Creating a new generation of pampered poodles, I suppose ... :roll:

Time to bundle up and freeze my fingers off on those 20° brake calipers! Later ...
SMITTY
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Re: Coffee 1-25-14

PostBy: NWBuilder On: Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:06 am

Smitty they cancel school around here if there is a threat of snow. It is not to turn our kids into wimps that's just a side benefit. It is because they are scared to death about getting sued!!! I remember going to school with 6 to 8 inches on the ground and still snowing. They never cancelled, now they can't cancel fast enough!! Oh well enough bitchin, gotta make Chocolate chip pancakes for my girls and the sleepover gang. I would rather enjoy some of Freddy's Blueberry. Got a basketball game at 1:30. Already 19° here and rising. Snow this afternoon, might get 2 inches heaven help us all!!! Be well everyone and stay warm, Ken


SMITTY wrote:Leave it to the government to take what works, and morph it into a complicated and expensive mess. :mad: DOT will crucify anyone if they check the diesel tank and it's not bluish-green, indicating you paid the cartel their extortion "feee", aka ROAD TAX. Probably get 20 years now for adding kerosene, because it doesn't meet "clean air" standards. Par for the course ... :sick:

Went to bed, it was 12° ... and now it's 25° and howling wind. Perfect day to do a brake job outdoors. Get to do a Dodge pickup - front brakes only, so "SHOULD" be easy ... :|

Coal consumption is WAY up over what I calculated for the first month (end of Oct. to end of Nov.). I figured as much, with the weather. Still using a hair less than the stove did, so I'm happy. All told consumption is WAY down .. AND this is the coldest winter in the 9 years of burning coal for us. That, and there's ghost flow to the indirect. All good signs as far as consumption goes. I might actually be able to afford to heat this place after all! :lol:

We have packs of coyotes all around here. They usually stay away from the houses, as there;s plenty of house cats, rabbits, & squirrels for them to munch on out in the woods. Can always hear them when they get a kill. Sometimes they;ll stray close and try to pack up on the neighbor's dog. They get lead poisoning when that happens ...and they're smart animals - haven't been seen here since. Lots of fox tracks all over my yard, which is normal. They usually den on the hill back there, just 100' from the house. I'll find turkey carcasses in the yard when they move in - that's how I know when the hole is occupied. Looks like either a big coyote or a bobcat has been hitting the garbage pile across the street - saw some good sized tracks there.

Can't believe how VA got 6x the amount of snow we got here! We got 1/2" out of that storm. Was a total joke. They cancelled most lines of business, and had a 2 hour delay for schools ... all for less than an inch of snow. What a joke! Creating a new generation of pampered poodles, I suppose ... :roll:

Time to bundle up and freeze my fingers off on those 20° brake calipers! Later ...
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Ahs 130
Coal Size/Type: Burning Pea anthracite

Re: Coffee 1-25-14

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:08 am

Good morning all, warmed up a bit here to 19* but just to make the snow heavier then it's going to drop back down. :roll: On the bright side I had the VFF bring my wife home from the hospital in a wheelchair van & get her into the house (doc wouldn't let me help). Anyhow we got to talking & they asked how I was fixed for propain so I said good now that I'm back on coal, they got a funny look on their faces so I took them down & showed them my furnace & CO alarms & all. A couple of them were asking all kinds of questions as to where to look at buying them & get coal, I may have just converted a couple of guys. They also said that the setup meets everything that they would look for & then some. :)
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PostBy: buffalo bob On: Sat Jan 25, 2014 11:20 am

morn all we are having a heat wave here.+23 now 1014am wow thats up 21* since yesterday man my coal pile is gittin low , might have a week left..dont want to get to much as i have to rebuild the side wall due to cave out..tryed to get 2 gal in a 1 gal bottle..lol well it was my fault as i built it in a hurry and didnt anchor it at all..yea 54 years exp. and a simple block wall explodes...the story of my life the second time i'll git er done right...have a good day all...spring is a comming...
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