Should a church be tax free?

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Re: Should a church be tax free?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:42 pm

It was WAY back when Kevin & people just didn't pay attention to what exactly was going on--I mean really, it was a Church--people doing the work of our Lord--probably in the 60's would be my guess
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Re: Should a church be tax free?

PostBy: KLook On: Tue Jan 28, 2014 11:11 pm

Ya, mine was in the late 90's. Happens a bunch in small towns.

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Re: Should a church be tax free?

PostBy: oliver power On: Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:14 am

Flyer5 wrote:
samhill wrote:This man has a point, I don't mind some things that a church does being tax free but some of their holdings should not. Another question that comes to mind is what constitutes a church? With all the new off shoot religions I see it makes me wonder if the Church of the Emancipated Dude is nothing but a tax dodge. 8-)



I think towns and cities and states and tax based public entities need to be audited every year to see why we need to be taxed so extremely before looking for new revenue. And audited by an outside firm that cannot be bought or owned.
I agree!!!
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Re: Should a church be tax free?

PostBy: Freddy On: Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:48 am

Here's a fairly short & interesting read:

http://hushmoney.org/501c3-facts.htm

It tells how churches have never been taxed in the USA. The first thing in the constitution says "separation of church & state".... So, the state can not tax the churches as the churches are outside of the government.... you can't tax what is outside your control!
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Re: Should a church be tax free?

PostBy: jpete On: Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:03 am

The Constitution says the government can't MANDATE any particular religion.

At one time, some churches were taxed and others weren't which violates the Equal Protection Clause and gave the appearance that government was favoring one religion over another so they removed the tax and didn't tax ANY churches.
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Re: Should a church be tax free?

PostBy: Richard S. On: Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:17 am

Freddy wrote:So, the state can not tax the churches as the churches are outside of the government.... you can't tax what is outside your control!


Freddy I don't think there is anything preventing a church from being taxed, they are simply treated like any other non profit. As I said previously if you're going to begin taxing churches there is going to be a whole host of non profits that will have to be taxed along with them.
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Re: Should a church be tax free?

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:02 am

We need to start the church of anthracite. :)
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Re: Should a church be tax free?

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:22 am

I think a simple solution would be to treat income from any source as income, & property should be taxed at a fair rate if every church & so called non-profit would pay property tax then it would reduce everyone's, that is as long as that is where the increased revenue was put. Same as income, that priest, padre, pastor, rabbi, minister, holy man or guru or whatever they want called which some struggle & wouldn't pay as others are multi millionaires & would. Same goes for like wall st. bonuses & the like, if it's money going into your pocket it's income. Capital gains is another along with some other name given to some the only difference I see is if I get a $50 dividend check it's taxed but if a millionaire gets $500k then it's tax free or at least taxed at a lower rate.
We all know it will never happen because the wealthy make the laws & somewhere along the line it became their right to exclude themselves from our peed-on laws so perhaps the Church of NEPA would be worth a look at.
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Re: Should a church be tax free?

PostBy: labman On: Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:32 am

samhill wrote:I grew up Greek Catholic in a small blue collar town where most everyone at that time was poor but most didn't realize it simply because everyone was near the same. As the parishioners struggled to get by the priest (who I really liked) well he lived pretty well with his wife & 19 kids, would have been 22 but several died at birth or shortly after. Now the parish house was large & they lived well but all those people living better than most that supported them never seemed right to me. The one thing of interest to me was that everyone of them either became a nun or priest & the two boys closest to my age were anything but saints but just knew a good thing.


That brings back memories of my up bringing! A SMALL town, small churches(5), Preacher for each one, that lived better than most everyone they preached to. And most of their children felt they were better than everyone else to boot! Dad was a Deacon, so I got to see a lot of the excesses first hand since he made sure the preacher had all he wanted/needed. We were pretty strapped on material things and foods as were most everyone else in town. Meat once a week and lots of hand-me-downs.
But we survived and that made us what we are today.
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