First Time Stove Not Keeping up

 
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Post by Buckeye1 » Tue. Jan. 28, 2014 5:19 pm

For the first time in 6 years my TLC 2000 cant heat the house comfortably . I have been running stove temps of 500f with a stack temp of 250f and using 60# blaschak nut a day. Normal temps are 350f stove temps with barely 200f stack temps 30# nut a day. I broke down and fired up the fireplace at the opposite end of the house to balance things out.
I have created a convective loop with wall fan at floor level pushing cool air from one end of the house towards stove with a ceiling fan in stove room to throw rising heat to be picked up from other higher mounted thru wall fan to help distribute heat. This setup has worked well in the past although this is the coldest snap that I have experienced with this setup. Just sayin...


 
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Post by kstills » Tue. Jan. 28, 2014 5:22 pm

Buckeye1 wrote:For the first time in 6 years my TLC 2000 cant heat the house comfortably . I have been running stove temps of 500f with a stack temp of 250f and using 60# blaschak nut a day. Normal temps are 350f stove temps with barely 200f stack temps 30# nut a day. I broke down and fired up the fireplace at the opposite end of the house to balance things out.
I have created a convective loop with wall fan at floor level pushing cool air from one end of the house towards stove with a ceiling fan in stove room to throw rising heat to be picked up from other higher mounted thru wall fan to help distribute heat. This setup has worked well in the past although this is the coldest snap that I have experienced with this setup. Just sayin...
Lotta that going around......

 
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Post by Storm » Tue. Jan. 28, 2014 11:04 pm

Buckeye. George here. I have Mark 111 stove temp 525, stack temp 3 ft after baro 175. Do you have a barometer? I think your draft is taking your heat up the chimney or you might have a blockage in the chimney. Have co2 detectors. Last night in my neck of the woods in central Wisconsin it was 23 below with a wind at 25-35 mph. Sorry but this cold is heading your way. Even though my stove puts out good heat the cold is bad here. Haven seen this weather in a long time. Just put the electric blanket up a few numbers and hug the Siberian Husky. G.

 
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Post by dcrane » Wed. Jan. 29, 2014 6:03 am

This past month has been a very tough one... I don't care what kind of stove you have were all being pushed to the limits in recent weeks to maintain warm house temps (i even broke down and clicked the oil burner on here and their to help my stove keep up)... these are the days we all start cursing those who have coal central heating systems (those are the only guys staying at 72 degrees toothy ), You might hear a few folks rant about how their 70,000 BTU hand fired is heating their whole house on 50lbs per day this month because its so perfect (those would be the liars)... we are all feeling this cold so hang in their with us and we will get past this record breaking month soon!

 
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Post by Wheelo » Wed. Jan. 29, 2014 6:25 am

Don't feel bad! I've been supplementing my hotblast with the proPAIN furnace the last 48 hours. It's downright cold here in Ohio. Last couple mornings the outside temp was hovering around -19. After determining the coal alone wasn't going to heat my 3,500sq ft house to anything more than 60, I turned the furnace on. Which only runs maybe 10 minutes every hour to heat the house to 74. Gotta do what ya gotta do when it's cold like this. Could I over fire my stove, and get a couple more degrees, yes I could. Will I? Nope, not worth it in the long run. Push em, but don't push em too hard. Be safe and stay warm my friend!

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Post by Lightning » Wed. Jan. 29, 2014 7:34 am

I lit my wood pellet stove to help throw a few more Btus in the house so I don't have to push the furnace too hard. It's not that I gotta, it just makes things easier. Plus burning 80-90 pounds of coal per day on these extreme days. 10 below zero outside and 85 degrees warmer in the house :shock:

 
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Post by Jersey John » Wed. Jan. 29, 2014 7:36 am

Morning folks ~

I'm a newbie this season, but have to say with the limited experience I have burning...on these exceedingly cold days that have a run of several days at a time, the only way I'm enjoying acceptable warmth is burning at 600-625 degrees. On days above 20, I can easily get away with 500 stove temperatures.

But in order to keep up with a continuous flow of warm convection current, I simply need to burn hotter...using less than a 10 gallon galvanized can I purchased from Tractor Supply. I have 2 of them near the stove and 2 six gallon containers. Interested in the actual weight, I found the 10 gallon filled with nut coal to be about 62lbs. So, I estimate I'm burning around 50 on the coldest days, with the rooms above kept at 65-67. With my wood stove also burning, on these single digit days, no problem attaining 70-72. Let me also note, I live on a small wilderness lake, with mountain behind, and so we do get quite a fair amount of wind.

And, though my stove is the DS 1500, can't imagine anything more powerful in the sized house I'm in...or, I would have to open the windows on all but the coldest days. I've never been more comfortable in this house in the winter, and look forward to returning to enjoy the warmth after a day out taking care of errands.

Hoping your all having a great New Year so far!

Jersey John


 
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Post by jrn8265 » Wed. Jan. 29, 2014 8:05 am

Been down around zero several nights and burning 100 lbs a day to keep my house at 73 degrees with my koker. Probably would be spending about $25 a day though in oil!

 
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Post by freetown fred » Wed. Jan. 29, 2014 8:29 am

It's not about my stove not keeping up. I'm normally at 40 lbs a day to stay at 74* down to 10* or so-- bimetallic set on 6 or 7--ash door vents closed completely--with all this cold--this AM it's -9 & that's warm compared to the past few weeks--anyway--using 60 lbs per, ash door vents open 1/4, ceiling fan on low constantly & bimetallic on 10--house staying at 74* MPD closed completely constantly except when tending--windy as a bastard for 2 weeks---My Grandfather used to constantly tell me " ya gotta be smarter then what you're workin with" :clap: toothy

 
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Post by Jersey John » Wed. Jan. 29, 2014 8:30 am

Just wanted to add, that now that the day is underway, the stove has been dialed back to around 1/2 which should produce a steady 500 degrees, which will allow the house to maintain it's temperature until nighttime. At the moment, it's almost too warm..pushing 80 in my living room. That in itself is notable, since there has never been a winter season I could have maintained that sort of warmth...certainly not when outside temperatures were under 10 degrees. I may need to crack open a window to let out some heat..

 
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Post by windyhill4.2 » Wed. Jan. 29, 2014 8:42 am

I sure envy you guys burning coal !,with coal we would probably go thru 250#/day for the 3 buildings,with wood its work,work,work,in a 24 hr. period we went thru 1/2 cord Jan. 7,2014 high was only 8* with 30 mph winds,today could run a close second to that as the high is forecast to be 19* with 25 mph winds.BUT,we have it warm in all 3 buildings,74* in the 2 houses ,70* in the shop. While wood is an awful lot of work it is still far better than the liquid choices $$$$$$$$$$$ ,stay warm.

 
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Post by freetown fred » Wed. Jan. 29, 2014 8:50 am

Indeed it is WH :)

 
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Post by BPatrick » Wed. Jan. 29, 2014 11:51 am

I've got 2 Crawford 40's running at 550-575 and the house is warm. A few rooms are cooler but not cold. When I heated with gas, the house was 66 everywhere, the tightwad, but now we heat into the mid 70's. When my kids complain that the backroom is 66-67 I tell them that's what we used to keep the whole house at and put on some sweats and quit whining. I can't wait to get older and tell the 5 miles to school uphill stories. :D

 
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Post by Lightning » Wed. Jan. 29, 2014 11:53 am

BPatrick wrote:I can't wait to get older and tell the 5 miles to school uphill stories.
Uphill both directions no less..... :lol:

 
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Post by I'm On Fire » Wed. Jan. 29, 2014 1:39 pm

dcrane wrote:This past month has been a very tough one... I don't care what kind of stove you have were all being pushed to the limits in recent weeks to maintain warm house temps (i even broke down and clicked the oil burner on here and their to help my stove keep up)... these are the days we all start cursing those who have coal central heating systems (those are the only guys staying at 72 degrees toothy ), You might hear a few folks rant about how their 70,000 BTU hand fired is heating their whole house on 50lbs per day this month because its so perfect (those would be the liars)... we are all feeling this cold so hang in their with us and we will get past this record breaking month soon!
That's not true. My DS 1600 has been keeping my 1500 sq. ft. drafty house 75°+ during these very cold days. It's been running 550°+ for weeks and only going through roughly 60 pounds of coal every 24 hours. I give it about 30 pounds in the morning and 30 at night.

It's currently 16° out and my house is 78°.


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