mobile home and direct vent stoker stoves

mobile home and direct vent stoker stoves

PostBy: John518 On: Wed Jan 29, 2014 6:49 pm

I am thinking of replacing the pellet stove that is working here. Due to the lack of
height a free standing hand fed stove will not work (9' chimney is a no no).
That leaves a stoker stove using the direct vent system thru the wall.
Right now I am not interested in using a power vent.
Checked on the Harman DVC 500 stoker but $$$$.
Any recommendations or thoughs :?:
John518
 

Re: mobile home and direct vent stoker stoves

PostBy: WNY On: Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:08 pm

If you don't or can't have a tall enough chimney, you need a power vent or direct vent.
Keystokers have direct vents.
Also, make sure they are approved for Mobile home use, not all stoves are.
WNY
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90K, Leisure Line Hyfire I
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker, LL & CoalTrol
Stove/Furnace Model: 90K, Hyfire I, VF3000 Soon

Re: mobile home and direct vent stoker stoves

PostBy: mozz On: Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:40 am

I'd think you would get cooked out of a mobile home with coal. Spend $3000+ on a coal stove would take a long time for payback, also consider your powervent run 24/7 and brings your electric bill up.
mozz
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 1982 AA-130 Steam

Visit Lehigh Anthracite

Re: mobile home and direct vent stoker stoves

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:24 am

Well, John518 ,mozz a Leisure Line Lil Heater is 70k btu @ $2400 +power vent = 3-4 yr.payback ,not too shabby for keeping WARM !!! Go to the manufacturers section & ck. it out. Can you not run the stoker vent the same as the pellet stove vent ?
windyhill4.2
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Oaktree (OWB)!!!!
Stove/Furnace Model: 600

Re: mobile home and direct vent stoker stoves

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Thu Jan 30, 2014 10:31 am

mozz wrote:I'd think you would get cooked out of a mobile home with coal. Spend $3000+ on a coal stove would take a long time for payback, also consider your powervent run 24/7 and brings your electric bill up.




I think your on the wrong forum. :)
Flyer5
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL110
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Leisure Line Pioneer

Re: mobile home and direct vent stoker stoves

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:01 am

Flyer5, Is the Lil Heater approved for mobile home use ? could not find details on that part,thanks
windyhill4.2
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Oaktree (OWB)!!!!
Stove/Furnace Model: 600

Re: mobile home and direct vent stoker stoves

PostBy: mozz On: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:03 pm

Harman DVC 500 he mentioned is easy over $3000. I think mobile home i think 10x40. I also think up in flames in 5 minutes. Wouldn't any stoker overheat the house just on idle? :poke:

Flyer5 wrote:
mozz wrote:I'd think you would get cooked out of a mobile home with coal. Spend $3000+ on a coal stove would take a long time for payback, also consider your powervent run 24/7 and brings your electric bill up.




I think your on the wrong forum. :)
mozz
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 1982 AA-130 Steam

Re: mobile home and direct vent stoker stoves

PostBy: 009to090 On: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:17 pm

The DVC-500 on idle is 7K btu.
When I lived up North, I needed 25k to 30k BTU to heat my old single-wide.
009to090
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520 HighBoy
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: DVC-500 x 2
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Rice

Re: mobile home and direct vent stoker stoves

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Thu Jan 30, 2014 12:21 pm

Before I recommended a particular unit for John518 to look at i first looked it up so i would have a clue what i was talking about . Lil heater is for 5k-70k & does not have to be run flat out all the time. I guess i missed where he gave the size of his home,they do make them in bigger sizes too..12x60,14x70 ,etc. If a unit is approved for mobile home use,why would there be a fire worry ?? Reading & studying helps all of us to give educated comments to others needs.
windyhill4.2
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Oaktree (OWB)!!!!
Stove/Furnace Model: 600

Re: mobile home and direct vent stoker stoves

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:07 pm

windyhill4.2 wrote:Flyer5, Is the Lil Heater approved for mobile home use ? could not find details on that part,thanks



Yes they are all of our stoves are. Most areas require it bolted to the floor and a fresh air intake near the unit. We have customers with Hyfires in MH.
Flyer5
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL110
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Leisure Line Pioneer

Re: mobile home and direct vent stoker stoves

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:12 pm

At 5000btus? I have never seen a MH or any home that tight that it can't lose 5000btus on its own. : :poke: D

mozz wrote:Harman DVC 500 he mentioned is easy over $3000. I think mobile home i think 10x40. I also think up in flames in 5 minutes. Wouldn't any stoker overheat the house just on idle? :poke:

Flyer5
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL110
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Leisure Line Pioneer

Re: mobile home and direct vent stoker stoves

PostBy: John518 On: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:46 pm

Thank you for all the information. I did some checking and now looking at the
Alaska Channing III REAR VENT. The power vent is the last and I do mean last option.
Correct me if I am wrong.
Stoker stove takes air from outside the stove blows air thru the " burn tray" to me that means outside air ( just like my pellet stove) and the fan produces a positive atmosphere inside the stove which goes out the flue.
We are talking about 2/3 feet tops going out.
Why do I need a vent with a fan?
SinceI will need an outside vent for fresh air a direct vent which has both in and out and does not use AC.
John518
 

Re: mobile home and direct vent stoker stoves

PostBy: John518 On: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:49 pm

Part 2
The Mobil home is 28 feet wide and 70 feet long.
I did look at the little heater and the Independance.
Also look a Hitzer.
John518
 

Re: mobile home and direct vent stoker stoves

PostBy: WNY On: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:53 pm

Some stoves like the HARMEN (direct vent), will bring fresh air in and exhaust it out the same pipe. Pipe within a pipe.

Most other stoves, use ROOM air for the combustion blower, it sucks the air from the combustion blower from the same room and ONLY exhaust it out thru the Exhaust pipe/chimney pipe.

If you don't have the room for a chimney, you can either use a "POWER VENT", Mounted on the outside that PULLS the fumes out of the stove or a "DIRECT VENT", that mounts on the STOVE and PUSHES the fumes out the pipe (Pressurized pipe and needs sealed). (Keystoker stoves typically use this). Do a search on here for Power Vent vs. Direct Vent. Might explain better.

Direct vent vs Power vent...

Why are you sayin a power is you last option, if you don't have the room or height for a standard chimney, you only have 2 options. Power vent or Direct Vent. Which basically do the same thing.
WNY
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90K, Leisure Line Hyfire I
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker, LL & CoalTrol
Stove/Furnace Model: 90K, Hyfire I, VF3000 Soon

Re: mobile home and direct vent stoker stoves

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:17 pm

I would still recommend a chimney no mater what unit you install. In the short run it would be worth it.
Flyer5
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL110
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Leisure Line Pioneer

Visit Lehigh Anthracite