Will amnesty for illegals destroy the Republican Party?

Will amnesty for illegals destroy the Republican Party?

PostBy: lsayre On: Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:11 am

Ann Coulter thinks so, and says that by offering by partisan support to amnesty they are shooting their own political party in the foot.

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2014-01-29.html
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Re: Will amnesty for illegals destroy the Republican Party?

PostBy: scalabro On: Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:14 am

I believe so, but It does not matter, the Republic as it once was has already ceased to exist.
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Re: Will amnesty for illegals destroy the Republican Party?

PostBy: lowfog01 On: Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:26 am

lsayre wrote:Ann Coulter thinks so, and says that by offering by partisan support to amnesty they are shooting their own political party in the foot.


Dk sent me this this morning:

“Always beware of what's reported by the media. The Rep leaders are off on their retreat and the media may be selectively reporting some of the news. Example, media is reporting that the Reps are drafting their version of an "amnesty" bill. The truth is that their priority is to secure the border and have the "illegal" residents apply for citizenship the right way, which means that they need to join the back of the line. But the media conveniently leaves that out. Sadly, though, the jelly-spine'd Rep leaders have a history caving to the dems and not sticking up for doing the right thing. I know the dems will act in their best interest first and foremost. I am optimistic that the reps will do the right thing and then stick with it.”

I agree. I think the Dems are trying to split the factions of the Republican party and amnesty is all they have left. They need to distract from Obamacare and the economy in general. We need to watch and listen to what the Democrats are saying and doing but more important we need to be putting pressure on the House and Senate to grow a pair and stand firm on no amnesty or even amnesty light. Lisa
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Re: Will amnesty for illegals destroy the Republican Party?

PostBy: freetown fred On: Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:29 am

Thank you DK--Oh, & you also for the post Lisa:)
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Re: Will amnesty for illegals destroy the Republican Party?

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Jan 31, 2014 9:45 am

Heck here I was thinking amnesty was what Reagan gave years back & a way to earn your citizenship were different. As for the jobs those people are here & most already have jobs but many (as many so called Americans as well) work under the table. And guess what, it isn't the small start up business that employs them. Sure we should secure our border as we should have after the war but we never have & may never, no money released by those that say we should, just another can kicked. I would like to remind Ann that most in the U.S. are not of native decent. These so called found continents were never lost but stolen instead, some were cheated, some were in the name of Christ converted or killed but they were all here way before being "found". Just like millions upon millions of illegals their here.
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Re: Will amnesty for illegals destroy the Republican Party?

PostBy: EarthWindandFire On: Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:29 am

The only thing that will save the USA is deportation, forced if not coerced!
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Re: Will amnesty for illegals destroy the Republican Party?

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:45 am

How far back? :shock:
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Re: Will amnesty for illegals destroy the Republican Party?

PostBy: Richard S. On: Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:29 am

samhill wrote:Heck here I was thinking amnesty was what Reagan gave years back &


There was strings attached to that including beefing up the border and increased enforcement. They never followed through, fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. This is just repeat of the Reagan era amnesty, it's a mistake we should not make again. In addition to slowing the tide of illegal immigrants we also nee to consider slowing the tide of legal immigrants.



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Re: Will amnesty for illegals destroy the Republican Party?

PostBy: rberq On: Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:51 pm

Thank goodness we have illegal immigrants! Otherwise we'd have to go back to hating Jews and Pollacks and Spics and Micks and those slanty-eyed devils who built the railroads. Everybody (but most of all people like Ann Coulter) needs somebody to hate, and they fit the bill. President Obama has inexplicably failed to follow Ann's recommendation to drop nuclear bombs on Iran, so in frustration she has to focus on local problems. I say we start by nuking Arizona and New Mexico. Or Texas -- at least with Texas the collateral damage would be generally beneficial to the rest of the nation.
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Re: Will amnesty for illegals destroy the Republican Party?

PostBy: jpete On: Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:50 pm

I say erase all the arbitrary lines on the map and then no one will be illegal.
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Re: Will amnesty for illegals destroy the Republican Party?

PostBy: grumpy On: Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:33 pm

Gekko wrote:I believe so, but It does not matter, the Republic as it once was has already ceased to exist.



YEAH.... got that right.
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Re: Will amnesty for illegals destroy the Republican Party?

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sat Feb 01, 2014 1:10 am

Call, email or write your congressmen and tell them how you feel they should vote. Let your opinions be heard. The only way we have a chance.
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Re: Will amnesty for illegals destroy the Republican Party?

PostBy: rberq On: Sat Feb 01, 2014 11:34 am

lowfog01 wrote:we need to be putting pressure on the House and Senate to grow a pair
lsayre wrote:Ann Coulter thinks so

Ann Coulter has a nice pair. Otherwise, as SCOTUS would say, she is "utterly without redeeming social value".
But to answer the original question: No, amnesty will not destroy the Republican Party. In all seriousness, amnesty will help save the Republican Party. Think about it: doing what most Americans think is right will gain votes for the GOP, not lose votes.

Deporting Ann Coulter would help save the Republican Party.
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Re: Will amnesty for illegals destroy the Republican Party?

PostBy: ntp71 On: Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:02 pm

My opinion on immigration is this.

The people of Mexico come here looking for a better way of life. I think people miss this point a lot. If you live in Mexico, the Country is basically ruled by the cartels. I know of someone who grew up in Mexico and I was told of the terrible things these Cartels do to their own people. The people cannot turn to their own Government for help, because as you know the Government is corrupt as well.

Our Government has turned a blind eye to the immigration problem for years. They have allowed immigrants to flow across our borders easily and so these people have established lives here as second class citizens living in the shadows. As some of the good people came here looking for a better life, so came the bad. The bad ones are part of gangs and recruit others who are part of the down trodden. The good ones are taken advantage of with low paying work because companies can get away with paying them low wages because of their immigration status.

I do not believe sending people back to Mexico is the right thing to do. Our Government leaders allowed this to take place. Just like they are allowing Social Security to fall apart without doing anything to repair it, or how they are allowing the deficit to spiral out of control without really addressing it. I believe that we should better enforce our borders, streamline a path to citizenship for those wishing to come to our country which would mean rejecting those with a criminal background, and giving those already here some type of provisional status while they are applying for citizenship. I believe that the provisional status would help with separating the honest, hard working people from the criminals. The criminals would not be allowed citizenship and would be deported.

I also believe that the Democrats are short sighted on the subject by suggesting blanket amnesty and increasing their voter support, as I also believe the Republicans are short sighted by thinking that by allowing citizenship that it will be the end of the Republican party. I believe that neither party is looking at it from the prospective of helping our fellow human beings as people. The Dems pretend to care and thus want to give them everything for their votes, and the Repubs are just looking to cover their asses.

The same could be said about Social Security. The Dems say that it isn't broke and everything will be fine. Yet, there is less and less money to go around every year and the people who are living off of Social Security are being affected. The Repubs answer is to cut benefits. I personally thought George Bush's plan to privatize it was a good one. I would have been able to invest my retirement and would have owned it. Now, at age 43 I am still part of a failing plan that will probably be broke by the time I retire.

Neal
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Re: Will amnesty for illegals destroy the Republican Party?

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:23 pm

You make a lot of good points Neal except the Dems for at least from what I know aren't even suggesting blanket amnesty. A large portion of the debt is owed to SS because our Gov. has been stealing it for decades & that's both sides, I highly doubt that they wouldn't do the same to individual accounts, you would end up with a worthless IOU. The only reason some want to do away with it is because after all these years it is shortly going to be to the point that they will not be able to steal the excess that will no longer be there. If they do away with it they do away with much debt, make themselves look good (on paper) & most have sworn an oath to a lobbyist (which apparently trumps their oath of office)so they won't adjust the amount of tax to cover it.
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