Slowly but surely getting ready to switch from wood to coal

Re: Slowly but surely getting ready to switch from wood to coal

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:23 pm

If you have a basement, a boiler with subfloor radiant heat would heat well with those high ceilings.
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Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Other Heating: Heat Pump/Forced Hot Air Oil Furnace

Re: Slowly but surely getting ready to switch from wood to coal

PostBy: wsherrick On: Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:28 pm

I'm thinking I need to start posting on the stoker board every time someone wants to know about them. The man said no boxes, no electricity.
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Re: Slowly but surely getting ready to switch from wood to coal

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:30 pm

Sorry about that chief. I was typing while he was posting. Scratch the stoker ideas :oops:
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Re: Slowly but surely getting ready to switch from wood to coal

PostBy: nortcan On: Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:35 pm

Hi Pancho and welcome to the forum.
These antique stoves are serious heaters. You need a 16" + fire pot, these stoves are ""rated"" according the fire pots diameter. A base burner is very efficient and because having a very long gases path, the heat is sent in the house instead of to the outside from the chimney. After a few personnal ""lessons"" on how to burn you stove, you or your wife will never go back to wood.
Usually, you don't touch the stove between the 12 Hrs periods. Ex.: 8 Am dump the anthracite in, set the air,dampers and done till 8PM. Then you empty the ash pan, shake the grate to get the ash down in the ash pan, fill the stove and go for the next 12 Hrs non-stop.
I have 2 base burner and usually my wife never touch the stove except if the ext. temp. drastically changes during the day.
You can load the stove using the front loading door or from the top loading door.
Cleaner than wood to use, specially when the stove/s is in a living room.
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Re: Slowly but surely getting ready to switch from wood to coal

PostBy: SWPaDon On: Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:36 pm

I can't believe how many parlor stoves I'm finding on Craigslist. I started looking after I read the 'woodburner that burns coal' thread.
I'm finding these things everywhere.

http://youngstown.craigslist.org/atd/4269178137.html
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Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1600M
Coal Size/Type: Bituminous. Labeled as 'Big Vein', about the size of acorns. Makes a lot of ash, but heats well and lasts longer than my previous coal.

Re: Slowly but surely getting ready to switch from wood to coal

PostBy: grumpy On: Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:41 pm

I know we have a thread but cant find it, was thinking the how to start a coal fire would be a good start for him. I know when I started it was a learning curve, for me there were some things I had to get over, things that made no sense at first, like filling the fire pot all the way, I used to think, no I'll melt the stove !! What put 70 pounds of coal in there !! are you nuts... lol,, silly now when I think about it..
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Re: Slowly but surely getting ready to switch from wood to coal

PostBy: wsherrick On: Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:42 pm

SWPaDon wrote:I can't believe how many parlor stoves I'm finding on Craigslist. I started looking after I read the 'woodburner that burns coal' thread.
I'm finding these things everywhere.

http://youngstown.craigslist.org/atd/4269178137.html


That's a Germer Radiant Home, Hot Blast. Notice the the tubes coming up through the fire pot. Those are to feed super heated secondary air directly into the fire bed. These are made for Bituminous coal and are among the most advanced designs ever put out there.
Beware stoves sold by individuals. Unless you are absolutely sure of what you are doing, I recommend buying from a restorer. All the work has been done and you are assured that you are getting what you are paying for.
Most people selling stoves have absolutely no idea of what they have, this ad shows that.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

Re: Slowly but surely getting ready to switch from wood to coal

PostBy: nortcan On: Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:43 pm

I forgot to say: if you buy a stove from an antique dealer, make the right choice, restored doesn't mean the same thing for many ones.
Just to mention one having a trusted reputation is Stove Hospital.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Stuart,Peterson/ Grander
Stove/Furnace Model: Sunnyside/ Golden Bride

Re: Slowly but surely getting ready to switch from wood to coal

PostBy: grumpy On: Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:43 pm

Your cat knows where to hang out.. :D
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Re: Slowly but surely getting ready to switch from wood to coal

PostBy: SWPaDon On: Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:44 pm

grumpy wrote:I know we have a thread but cant find it, was thinking the how to start a coal fire would be a good start for him. I know when I started it was a learning curve, for me there were some things I had to get over, things that made no sense at first, like filling the fire pot all the way, I used to think, no I'll melt the stove !! What put 70 pounds of coal in there !! are you nuts... lol,, silly now when I think about it..

I know very little about anthracite coal, or parlor stoves for that matter, so I can't help much. But if you more knowledgeable people see any of these stoves that would suit the OP(or anyone else for that matter), let them know about the stoves.
SWPaDon
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1600M
Coal Size/Type: Bituminous. Labeled as 'Big Vein', about the size of acorns. Makes a lot of ash, but heats well and lasts longer than my previous coal.

Re: Slowly but surely getting ready to switch from wood to coal

PostBy: SWPaDon On: Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:49 pm

wsherrick wrote:
SWPaDon wrote:I can't believe how many parlor stoves I'm finding on Craigslist. I started looking after I read the 'woodburner that burns coal' thread.
I'm finding these things everywhere.

http://youngstown.craigslist.org/atd/4269178137.html


That's a Germer Radiant Home, Hot Blast. Notice the the tubes coming up through the fire pot. Those are to feed super heated secondary air directly into the fire bed. These are made for Bituminous coal and are among the most advanced designs ever put out there.
Beware stoves sold by individuals. Unless you are absolutely sure of what you are doing, I recommend buying from a restorer. All the work has been done and you are assured that you are getting what you are paying for.
Most people selling stoves have absolutely no idea of what they have, this ad shows that.

I didn't notice the tubes. That's some interesting info you just posted.

I know nothing about these parlor stoves. Never even saw one until I happened onto this forum.
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Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1600M
Coal Size/Type: Bituminous. Labeled as 'Big Vein', about the size of acorns. Makes a lot of ash, but heats well and lasts longer than my previous coal.

Re: Slowly but surely getting ready to switch from wood to coal

PostBy: wsherrick On: Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:50 pm

SWPaDon wrote:
grumpy wrote:I know we have a thread but cant find it, was thinking the how to start a coal fire would be a good start for him. I know when I started it was a learning curve, for me there were some things I had to get over, things that made no sense at first, like filling the fire pot all the way, I used to think, no I'll melt the stove !! What put 70 pounds of coal in there !! are you nuts... lol,, silly now when I think about it..

I know very little about anthracite coal, or parlor stoves for that matter, so I can't help much. But if you more knowledgeable people see any of these stoves that would suit the OP(or anyone else for that matter), let them know about the stoves.


We are all here to learn. No body knows everything and sometimes you find a hidden jewel out there. I just want to help people make the correct choices. Stoves that are missing parts and have broken castings, etc. are not a bargain. The cost of restoring the craigslist bargain will end up about the same as buying one that is professionally restored.
wsherrick
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Glenwood Base Heater, Crawford Base Heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford Base Heater, Glenwood, Stanley Argand
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut, Stove Size

Re: Slowly but surely getting ready to switch from wood to coal

PostBy: grumpy On: Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:52 pm

The cost of restoring the craigslist bargain will end up about the same as buying one that is professionally restored.



RIGHT !! don't do it,, What Will said is true, I know.. :x
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Re: Slowly but surely getting ready to switch from wood to coal

PostBy: SWPaDon On: Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:54 pm

wsherrick wrote:
We are all here to learn. No body knows everything and sometimes you find a hidden jewel out there. I just want to help people make the correct choices. Stoves that are missing parts and have broken castings, etc. are not a bargain. The cost of restoring the craigslist bargain will end up about the same as buying one that is professionally restored.

Some of the stoves I posted had very low price tags, so if you know someone that restores them feel free to pass the info on.
SWPaDon
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1600M
Coal Size/Type: Bituminous. Labeled as 'Big Vein', about the size of acorns. Makes a lot of ash, but heats well and lasts longer than my previous coal.

Re: Slowly but surely getting ready to switch from wood to coal

PostBy: Pancho On: Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:00 pm

nortcan wrote:Hi Pancho and welcome to the forum.
These antique stoves are serious heaters. You need a 16" + fire pot, these stoves are ""rated"" according the fire pots diameter. A base burner is very efficient and because having a very long gases path, the heat is sent in the house instead of to the outside from the chimney. After a few personnal ""lessons"" on how to burn you stove, you or your wife will never go back to wood.
Usually, you don't touch the stove between the 12 Hrs periods. Ex.: 8 Am dump the anthracite in, set the air,dampers and done till 8PM. Then you empty the ash pan, shake the grate to get the ash down in the ash pan, fill the stove and go for the next 12 Hrs non-stop.
I have 2 base burner and usually my wife never touch the stove except if the ext. temp. drastically changes during the day.
You can load the stove using the front loading door or from the top loading door.

Do you load it with a predetermined amount?.

Cleaner than wood to use, specially when the stove/s is in a living room.


Key selling point for my wife. I debark all my wood but there is still 'some' mess.

Anyone know what they wash the coal with?....is it just a water bath to remove the dust?. Do they use chemicals at all??.
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