New Harmon Super Mag on the way"Advise"

New Harmon Super Mag on the way"Advise"

PostBy: Kubota2007 On: Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:23 am

I need to purchase a barometric damper and a manometer any suggestions on brand and model and where to purchase? Thanks
Kubota2007
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Magmun 20yrs old,Harmon Super Mag just installed.
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Electric,

Re: New Harmon Super Mag on the way

PostBy: titleist1 On: Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:29 am

Congrats on the purchase, Pics are a requirement after the install!

This baro will work:
http://www.pexsupply.com/Field-Controls ... OgodVUUAIg

Dwyer Mark II Model 25 for a manometer....

TSC in our area carry the baro's and Grainger carries the manometer. Plenty of online sources as well.
A couple members have had them for sale too, do a search and PM them to see if they are still available.
titleist1
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: New Harmon Super Mag on the way"Advise"

PostBy: titleist1 On: Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:32 am

By the way, a couple of these if you don't already have them. Check the thread from last night regarding sulfur smell and no CO detector! :shock:

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Kidde-AC-Plu ... c=17588969
titleist1
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

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Re: New Harmon Super Mag on the way"Advise"

PostBy: Kubota2007 On: Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:44 am

We picked up CO Detectors last night, Ac w/battery backup,two for basement and two for living/sleeping area. Don't want to wakeup dead!!!
Kubota2007
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Magmun 20yrs old,Harmon Super Mag just installed.
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Electric,

Re: New Harmon Super Mag on the way"Advise"

PostBy: coalkirk On: Sun Feb 02, 2014 10:49 am

Kubota2007 wrote:We picked up CO Detectors last night, Ac w/battery backup,two for basement and two for living/sleeping area. Don't want to wakeup dead!!!


Yes! I've never done it but I hear it sucks!
coalkirk
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Harman VF3000
Coal Size/Type: antrhcite/rice coal

Re: New Harmon Super Mag on the way"Advise"

PostBy: captcaper On: Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:46 pm

Glad you got in the same boat as me. My new Super Mag has been running excellent in all kinds of wild New England temps from 50's to -25 below .
One important thing to remember during service is to oil the 3 oil caps on the shafts in the back. This should be done at least once a season. Don't trust there is enough to start already. Also the manual doesn't show how to clean under the grates in the new manual. You have to grab the handle with a poker and pull it open. The fly ash will fall out. The rest of using and maintenance is in the manual.
I blocked the front air duct off completely and pump up all the air via duct work from the stove. I have the Feed rate set at 1 1/2 because in below zero it starts to automatically increase the feed and it was a bit too much allowing some hot coals over the edge. Not all the time but certain times. Anyway 1 1/2 feeds nicely . I have the fan set at just above low and it will kick in when needed by itself to high,etc. I have the stove set on Room temp using the probe Harman supplies with the stove. I extended the probe an extra 30 ft and it still works excellent. Keeps the house withing a couple degrees. Steady is the word.
I do have two large Walmart totes and dump bags of coal into them to pre dry the coal.
captcaper
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman Super Magnum
Stove/Furnace Model: Super Magnum Stoker

Re: New Harmon Super Mag on the way"Advise"

PostBy: Kubota2007 On: Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:37 pm

Captcaper,Can't wait to get the new Stove, expected to come in the week of the 17th, I also ordered the plate that blocks the air, and I plan in hooking it to my current duct work. Then I'm going to increase cold air return as you susgusted. Today the Barometric damper arrived and I ordered a Manometer last night. The sooner the wood burner can be pulled out the better. Thans for the advise on the settings, I'll save them. Thanks for all your help.
Kubota2007
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Magmun 20yrs old,Harmon Super Mag just installed.
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Electric,

Re: New Harmon Super Mag on the way"Advise"

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:41 pm

Congrats to You,Kubota! You're on Your Way! Keep us posted,and don't forget about these Picture Hounds that we have here! Man,do they ever Luv Snaps! toothy
Hambden Bob
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman 1998 Magnum Stoker
Coal Size/Type: Rice-A-Roni !

Re: New Harmon Super Mag on the way"Advise"

PostBy: captcaper On: Wed Feb 05, 2014 10:12 am

Kubota2007 wrote:Captcaper,Can't wait to get the new Stove, expected to come in the week of the 17th, I also ordered the plate that blocks the air, and I plan in hooking it to my current duct work. Then I'm going to increase cold air return as you susgusted. Today the Barometric damper arrived and I ordered a Manometer last night. The sooner the wood burner can be pulled out the better. Thans for the advise on the settings, I'll save them. Thanks for all your help.


It's an amazing stove in that I don't have to change settings no matter what the outside temps do. When you do your settings and turn it on give it much time to warm up and compute what it wants or needs to do. The main thing is to get your baro damper installed and manometer installed. You won't be able to set them until the stove is really cranking. I hope the cold temps come for you so your chimney will be drafting good and stove running high heat. Mine stove won't crank out full heat until it hits 0 out it seems. So don't force it to feed too much to get it hot in order to set the manometer. It will get hot when good and ready. When outside temps go up to the 20's 30's it cuts way back. The manometer will read around 5 or 6. But when running full heat in zero weather it will read .08 which is what Harman calls for.
When I first go the stove outside temps weren't much and I had the feed up at 4 like Harman recommended. That's way too much as the coals were going over the edge. Others here have it set at 2 or 1 1/2 as well. You probably will have to adjust some but you should be able like me not to have to change settings at all no matter what the outside temps do that week,month,etc. Just fill the hopper,empty the fines and ash.
The Ash does look different then hand fired stoves or wood ash. It is more lumpy and has small pieces of what looks like un burnt coal. This is normal. My Coal dealer said (he has a Super Mag) you can't re burn the small pieces. They may be shale,etc. They won't burn.
captcaper
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman Super Magnum
Stove/Furnace Model: Super Magnum Stoker

Re: New Harmon Super Mag on the way"Advise"

PostBy: Kubota2007 On: Wed Feb 05, 2014 9:01 pm

Hopefully It will come in and I'll have it installed by the 22nd of this month, the way this winter is going there should be some cold weather ahead. The manometer is something I'm not really sure of, little confused on the different readings, but I'm sure I'll catch on, if not I'm sure you can answer a few questions. I ordered the manometer from Dwyer shold be here this week, the barometric damper I ordered Sunday night it was delivered yesterday. Need a few more elbows and pipe and I'm guessing a "T", I'm also assuming Blackpipe is best. How often do you replace the air filter?
Kubota2007
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Magmun 20yrs old,Harmon Super Mag just installed.
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Electric,

Re: New Harmon Super Mag on the way"Advise"

PostBy: captcaper On: Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:23 am

Kubota2007 wrote:Hopefully It will come in and I'll have it installed by the 22nd of this month, the way this winter is going there should be some cold weather ahead. The manometer is something I'm not really sure of, little confused on the different readings, but I'm sure I'll catch on, if not I'm sure you can answer a few questions. I ordered the manometer from Dwyer shold be here this week, the barometric damper I ordered Sunday night it was delivered yesterday. Need a few more elbows and pipe and I'm guessing a "T", I'm also assuming Blackpipe is best. How often do you replace the air filter?


Simple enough. When you hook up the manometer level it and install the hose from the flue pipe to the opposite side the manometer tells you too. this is because it will be easier to read it as the minus column doesn't go that deep. That's what most here do. It still reads fine but on just the opposite side of the zero. So instead of -.05 you'll read. .05.
I used 1/4 in copper tube from HDepot for the first 6 ft or so so the heat won't work on the tube. There is a great posting here on how to do this. manometer install
All you need to do is get this all installed and fire it up. Get going near high heat and read the manometer. It should read near or in .06 to .08 on full heat. Adjust the barodamper to achieve this. You can open the baro by hand and watch the manometer rise and fall to give you an idea on which way to go. If you have a decent chimney you will have no trouble tuning in.
The air filter change depends on how dusty your area is of course. But it shouldn't need doing but once a season I bet. But it's easy to check and replace.
captcaper
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman Super Magnum
Stove/Furnace Model: Super Magnum Stoker

Re: New Harmon Super Mag on the way"Advise"

PostBy: n0useforaname On: Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:37 am

I just picked up the same stove, and had it installed for about a week now. If you are moving it yourself, get like 4-5 guys and a really good dolly.. they are flipping HEAVY. And yeah, the Harman temp gauge works wonders.. kept my house perfectly at 72.3 degrees pretty much non-stop through 15-40 degree weather. I just ran a heat run into my basement last night which now I have to run my stove on "stove mode", so no more temp gauge for me :( But now my basement is 67 and upstairs is still 71-72, so I can't complain too much. Just not sure how it's gonna be when the weather changes. All and all I really like my setup over the hand fired Mark II I had.
n0useforaname
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman
Stove/Furnace Model: Super Mag Stoker

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