Ash Dust Control...Sawdust Systems?

 
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Post by Ndcoal » Sun. Feb. 02, 2014 9:23 pm

My brother was telling me there may be large area dust control systems for carpentry that may work well in a basement furnace type situation. Anyone with firsthand experience with such a system care to offer their thoughts on this idea?


 
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Post by BPatrick » Mon. Feb. 03, 2014 11:15 am

I'd be interested to hear more about this. Anyway to keep ash out of the house, I'm all for. I heat on the main level and dump ash outside from ash pans I carry outside. I've never dumped ash inside for this reason.

 
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Post by WNY » Mon. Feb. 03, 2014 12:08 pm

They make dust collectors for Sawdust, would probably work for ash, but the ash is much finer tho. you still may get a little blow thru to the shop vac, but some people use a drywall filter or something that can filter out the fine ash.

A Separator can like this? I use this for my woodworking and works really well, my shop vac get very little if anything in it.
http://www.rockler.com/dust-right-dust-separator

YOu can make one out of a couple elbows and a trash can or something too!

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Mon. Feb. 03, 2014 3:54 pm

Any of the wood shop type dust systems I've worked with can't take anything too hot, unless they are like the type used in big production shops that are all metal ducting to a sheet metal cyclone hopper.

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Post by freetown fred » Mon. Feb. 03, 2014 4:51 pm

I can't imagine why anyone would need a LARGE ash/ dust collection system in their stove area unless they're being awful sloppy in their ash removal process. Just wonderin. PLEASE enlighten me. I remove my ash's once a day from my hand fired, walking about 10 feet with open ash pan to outside where I dump them along the house to be dealt with come spring or spread them on the driveway. My stove room is inundated with knick knacks & other assorted THINGS--YES, I have to do a light dusting every spring, but I'm befuddled where this SERIOUS ash problem is coming from--again, please enlighten me :?

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Post by Ndcoal » Mon. Feb. 03, 2014 6:26 pm

Well lignite is 7200 BTU / lb vs 12000 anthracite. So I burn nearly double the amount to get the same heat, plus ND is an extreme winter climate and I need more btus than some. Add to that the fact that lignite is not as pure carbon as anthracite, inherently more ash, and I'm just dealing with more shaking and ash removal than many here.

What I want to control is not hot ash, but just visible and invisible ash particles in the air. Thought a wood shop system might help, like maybe flip a switch during shaking and dumping into my trash can, and a powerful suction could collect stray ash dust in the immediate area.

 
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Post by freetown fred » Mon. Feb. 03, 2014 6:56 pm

Thanx for the comeback nd. There have been people that did some kind of a riggin with a big shop vac & a 55 gall. drum. Kinda like riggin something up for a table saw. I wish I could point you to where on here it is BUT, hey I been to the Dakota's & found you guys to be pretty creative. When you do figure it out, don't forget to post it :)
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Post by Carbon12 » Mon. Feb. 03, 2014 6:56 pm

Dump the ash outside! Dumping inside is asking for mess

 
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Post by Ndcoal » Mon. Feb. 03, 2014 7:25 pm

Lignite gets soft when burned, and small burning grains of coal drop with the ash. So I dump into a big metal can and quickly put the lid on, let it die out for days. I really do not want to be running up and down the stairs with ash dust and hot bits of coal 2-3 times a day, seems like that would probably cause worse damage and mess in the long run than dust in the basement. Nor do I believe that would eliminate my basement dust. The dust is far preferable to burning oil and propane!! :D

 
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Post by Carbon12 » Mon. Feb. 03, 2014 7:27 pm

Roger that.

 
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Post by warminmn » Mon. Feb. 03, 2014 7:42 pm

You might be able to rig up an old kitchen hood with fan above the stove vented to the outside and click it on while dealing with ash. Or jimmy rig something similar. It could possibly lower your draft while on so be aware of that. I remember seeing a picture on here of someone doing this.

Or maybe get extra ash pans, if your stove has a pan, and put those pans inside another metal container without dumping and haul it out that way.

 
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Post by Dennis » Mon. Feb. 03, 2014 7:58 pm

I have a shop vac hooked up to 2" pvc pipe with hole drilled and open ends,this is at my coal bin since I don't wet my coal and works ok,I clean the filter a few times a season

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Post by Lu47Dan » Mon. Feb. 03, 2014 9:04 pm

Get one of these filter units.
http://www.woodcraft.com/category/4/1002170/20803 ... stems.aspx
Install a timer, start it and let it run on the timer.
I helped a buddy install one in his house to clear up the smoke from the wood furnace. He said it cut way down on the dust in the house.
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Post by WNY » Tue. Feb. 04, 2014 4:35 am

Heres another cheap way of an air filter.

http://lumberjocks.com/projects/45870

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Tue. Feb. 04, 2014 10:25 am

If you've got a long walk through the house to take the ash pan outside, and your getting fly ash dust from the pan, a few wet paper towels placed over the ash pan will hold the ash in until you get outside to empty it.

I get more dust from loading, than from unloading. :roll:

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