If You Weren't Burning Coal How Much Would Heating Cost You
- Carbon12
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- Other Heating: Heat Pump/Forced Hot Air Oil Furnace
If I was burning fuel oil this winter, I estimate I would have to spend $4000-$5000 for heat
With coal, I'm estimating $1500
With coal, I'm estimating $1500
- lsayre
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- Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
- Coal Size/Type: Lehigh Anthracite Pea
- Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (13.5 KW), ComfortMax 75
Annually I displace roughly 23,000 KWH's of electricity with roughly 5.5 to 6 tons (this year) of coal.
Electricity: 23,000 KWH x $0.1315/KWH = $3,025
Coal: 6 tons x $243/ton = $1,485
Annual savings ~= $1,540
Total time estimated to pay back my boiler and all ancillary equipment purchases plus installation charges ~= 4.6 years.
Electricity: 23,000 KWH x $0.1315/KWH = $3,025
Coal: 6 tons x $243/ton = $1,485
Annual savings ~= $1,540
Total time estimated to pay back my boiler and all ancillary equipment purchases plus installation charges ~= 4.6 years.
Last edited by lsayre on Mon. Feb. 03, 2014 7:55 pm, edited 1 time in total.
- lsayre
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I should have mentioned that with electricity our house was kept at 62 degrees at night and when we were at work, and 68 degrees for the living room and dining room area only when we were at home and awake (with the basement and bedroom zones always kept at 62 degrees). With coal the house is kept at a steady 69 degrees across all zones (sans the garage, which has always been set at 46 degrees).
- dcrane
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These numbers are a telling story about Oil... in my case 2 tons of coal + $200.00 of oil VS. $3,000 of oil (its astronomical)!
http://www.aarp.org/content/dam/aarp/research/pub ... s-prot.pdf
http://www.aarp.org/content/dam/aarp/research/pub ... s-prot.pdf
- Carbon12
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I think the manufacturers should ask permission to use our real world savings in their advertising,....for a small fee or hardware discount
- Carbon12
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1 ton of coal cost me $235.00 an equivalent amount of fuel oil (180 gallons) $734.00 currently
- lsayre
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In only about 5 years our "delivered" electricity rate has risen by a full 60%. Anthracite is not going up in cost anywhere near that fast. If electricity continues to go up at that rate I'll be all the happier for burning coal.
- Carbon12
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Our delivered cost for electricity is just shy of $.15/Kwatt with the electric hot water heater off line due to the boiler our monthly bill is $100/month less. Not using the heat pump at all or the electric water heater has cut our electric bill in half from last year,......to ONLY $200 last month. I have no idea how we're using that much electricity ??? I'm working on it though.
- michaelanthony
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$2000.00 plus at 68* with thieving Oil and $800.00 in coal and 72* plus...with or without electricity!
- Ed.A
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Had Propane to heat my shop back when it was $1.25 gallon/pound (whatever they use). 2yrs ago I found my '94 Stoker II when I looking at $4.50+ and I was burning off 100 gals a month, do the math.
The stoker in the shop never needs more than a bag a day (even @ single digits we've had) . This year alone would have cost me well over $500 a month to heat the shop.
That is all.
The stoker in the shop never needs more than a bag a day (even @ single digits we've had) . This year alone would have cost me well over $500 a month to heat the shop.
That is all.
- Lightning
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I used 5 tons of coal last year. Could be 5.5 this year with the severe weather.
Propane = 263 gallons/ton of coal based on BTU output.
5.5 tons x 263 gallons propane = 1446.5 gallons of propane to equal my current comfort.
1446.5 x $4.00/gallon = $5786 OMG
Coal equivalent = $1292
So, my heating cost could have been $5786 if using propain... But like I might have mentioned on another post. I couldn't do it. I would need to shut down parts of the house and live with 60 degrees and burn wood pellets. My pellet stove isn't big enough to heat the house during winter months..
Propane = 263 gallons/ton of coal based on BTU output.
5.5 tons x 263 gallons propane = 1446.5 gallons of propane to equal my current comfort.
1446.5 x $4.00/gallon = $5786 OMG
Coal equivalent = $1292
So, my heating cost could have been $5786 if using propain... But like I might have mentioned on another post. I couldn't do it. I would need to shut down parts of the house and live with 60 degrees and burn wood pellets. My pellet stove isn't big enough to heat the house during winter months..