Spoke too soon? Help, please.FIXED!

Spoke too soon? Help, please.FIXED!

PostBy: SpurHntr On: Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:39 pm

Ok.
About a week ago I noticed this.
Today I shut the stove down, and did a thorough cleaning.
Grates, under grates, filter, firebox made spotless.
There was a lot of junk on the grates, with a couple holes plugged, but a wire brush made em good as new, no warping.
Fired stove back up...thought I was golden.
Few hours later the problem reared its head again...
Thoughts?
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Re: Spoke too soon? Help, please.

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:48 pm

I'm thinkin' that while a good wire brushing can get both the Face and Rougher Cast Underside clean,sometimes you need a small index drill bit to chase the Through-Hole portion of the affected breather holes in the grate. If that weak side of the flame/grate your showing in the Pic has unburned coal,that could be the problem. If it's a matter of a weak fresh coal supply,you could have debris/obstruction in the Pusher Block/Upfeed Ramp area. Folks haven't been thrilled finding wood debris,slate,rock in some of their rice coal supply....Just a few thoughts....
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Re: Spoke too soon? Help, please.

PostBy: WNY On: Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:50 pm

Did you clean UNDER the grates or make sure you ash tray is closed.
Check and calibrate your draft correctly?
check your gaskets?
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Re: Spoke too soon? Help, please.

PostBy: SpurHntr On: Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:54 pm

Hambden Bob wrote:I'm thinkin' that while a good wire brushing can get both the Face and Rougher Cast Underside clean,sometimes you need a small index drill bit to chase the Through-Hole portion of the affected breather holes in the grate. If that weak side of the flame/grate your showing in the Pic has unburned coal,that could be the problem. If it's a matter of a weak fresh coal supply,you could have debris/obstruction in the Pusher Block/Upfeed Ramp area. Folks haven't been thrilled finding wood debris,slate,rock in some of their rice coal supply....Just a few thoughts....


Yeah, I was thinking a feed issue with a partial obstruction on the side of the ash.
Seems to be MOSTLY ash on that side.
All the grate holes are WIDE open.
My plan is to let this hopper full run dry...then check the up feed ramp...I didn't empty that area out more than needed to get the grates out today.
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Re: Spoke too soon? Help, please.

PostBy: SpurHntr On: Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:56 pm

WNY wrote:Did you clean UNDER the grates or make sure you ash tray is closed.
Check and calibrate your draft correctly?
check your gaskets?


Yes, I cleaned under the grates very well.
Draft was set shortly after install, nothing has changed there, my baro corrects my "too good" draft.
Gaskets all good.

One thing,
I did not cement the grates in,,,no mention of that in my manual.
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Re: Spoke too soon? Help, please.

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:27 pm

Sounds like a plan. I've got the old model,and my grates free float in their setting. I don't know if the new design calls for the grates being cemented in place. Mix in the other choice advice posts that come in for you,and make hay while you've got her down. Wouldn't hurt to watch the feed pattern as your pushing in new coal prior to lighting to see if you've got it corrected. CaptCaper may have some grate advice for you. Be Patient and Thorough,and you'll get it going the right way! Good Luck,My Friend! :yes:
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Re: Spoke too soon? Help, please.

PostBy: SpurHntr On: Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:32 pm

Now. At the end of each auger cycle a very noticeable SQUEEK is audible.
To the point of making my skin crawl.
Like a brake SQUEEK on a bicycle tire with each revolution.
And just now, two very loud crunches like coal being crushed, as I type this.
Never heard either those sounds before.
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Re: Spoke too soon? Help, please.

PostBy: KLook On: Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:55 pm

Something is getting in the way of the pusher. Don't I hate it when that happens. Made me build a screen for my boiler.

Kevin
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Re: Spoke too soon? Help, please.

PostBy: SpurHntr On: Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:08 pm

KLook wrote:Something is getting in the way of the pusher. Don't I hate it when that happens. Made me build a screen for my boiler.

Kevin


I think that crunch was my issue
Running better
Will put 25 lbs in and see what the morning brings
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Re: Spoke too soon? Help, please.

PostBy: SpurHntr On: Wed Feb 05, 2014 11:39 am

Nope same thing.
Gonna let her run dry then check for obstructions best I can.
I won't be doing too much, certainly won't disassemble fear of voiding any warranty.
Stove only 3 months old.
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Re: Spoke too soon? Help, please.

PostBy: SpurHntr On: Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:29 pm

SpurHntr wrote:
KLook wrote:Something is getting in the way of the pusher. Don't I hate it when that happens. Made me build a screen for my boiler.

Kevin




Ummmmmmm
A weeee bit bigger than rice eh????
Was wedged in there but good...
No visible damage.
Least it's actually coal.

No bloody idea how I didn't see that
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PostBy: Rigar On: Wed Feb 05, 2014 4:38 pm

...good find!
i ve actually found 2 that size so far in my bagged rice coal this season!
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Re: Spoke too soon? Help, please.FIXED!

PostBy: titleist1 On: Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:04 pm

Spur....Make like a breaker and take a hammer to it!! Wont take long to get it to the right size! :D

Or put it on the mantle as a knick-knack conversation starter!!

Or drill a hole through it and make a keychain!!
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Re: Spoke too soon? Help, please.FIXED!

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:10 pm

Cripes,you struck Black Gold,just the wrong size! I'd say you're back to Stokin' Away! :up:
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman 1998 Magnum Stoker
Coal Size/Type: Rice-A-Roni !

Re: Spoke too soon? Help, please.FIXED!

PostBy: SpurHntr On: Wed Feb 05, 2014 5:15 pm

titleist1 wrote:Spur....Make like a breaker and take a hammer to it!! Wont take long to get it to the right size! :D

Or put it on the mantle as a knick-knack conversation starter!!

Or drill a hole through it and make a keychain!!


You spyin on me?!!!! Lol
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