Rusty Toyota Frames

Re: Rusty Toyota Frames

PostBy: EarthWindandFire On: Fri Feb 07, 2014 2:56 pm

Thanks Rob!

I just went to Fluid Film's website and called a local garage that does it and left a voicemail. I'll post here again about cost and product feedback.
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Re: Rusty Toyota Frames

PostBy: hank2 On: Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:35 pm

I remember the very good deal Toyota gave to owners on certain year pickups with rusted out frames. IIRC, there was a 150 % allowance on trade in and a big discount off a new one to boot.

At that time, we owned a 1997 Isuzu Rodeo ( last year of longer wheelbase) that failed state inspection for frame rot. No consideration at all from Isuzu, who was about kaput in the US anyhow. Had to junk it although it was in fine running condition. Supposedly, those Rodeo's and possibly Nissan's, had the same frame as used on the Toyota's. Reputably, they were all manufactured by Isuzu.

A friend of mine has a about a 1990 to 1992 Toyota pickup that he purchased new. It's been his only vehicle. He claims that he has never washed it. He is just now getting one bad spot of frame rust, which is repairable. I think that the early '90's were the last era of truly great Japanese vehicles. He did need a new engine a few years ago. Likely because he rarely drives more than a mile or two at a time. I don't think the truck has more than 80k on it in over 20 years.
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Re: Rusty Toyota Frames

PostBy: Ed.A On: Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:11 pm

hank2 wrote:I think that the early '90's were the last era of truly great Japanese vehicles.
hank2


Hrmm, my 1999 4 Runner had 220,000 miles on it when I traded it in. Got $3500 for it to boot.

My 2002 Tundra has 160K now and fully expect it to go until the tires fall off...sometime after the 300K mark.

2nd Generation Tundras are seeing roughly the same mileage as the previous models.
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Re: Rusty Toyota Frames

PostBy: Salemcoal On: Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:07 pm

My brother had a 96 toyota with a rotted frame . they did make good on them but those frames were junk to begin with in those years. those little toyota trucks were everywhere in the 1980s and early 90s and you don't see any of them now in the northeast because just about all of them rotted away and toyota didn't make good on all them just the defective frame years. Funny I still see alot of 80s chevy and GMC trucks kicking around by me. I know these aren't trucks but toyotas can't hold a candle to the mercedes 123 chassis of the 1980's these cars are still everywhere and when Mercedes advertised them as lifetime cars they weren't lying.
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Re: Rusty Toyota Frames

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:49 pm

Salemcoal wrote:My brother had a 96 toyota with a rotted frame . they did make good on them but those frames were junk to begin with in those years. those little toyota trucks were everywhere in the 1980s and early 90s and you don't see any of them now in the northeast because just about all of them rotted away and toyota didn't make good on all them just the defective frame years. Funny I still see alot of 80s chevy and GMC trucks kicking around by me. I know these aren't trucks but toyotas can't hold a candle to the mercedes 123 chassis of the 1980's these cars are still everywhere and when Mercedes advertised them as lifetime cars they weren't lying.



Hahahaha! Nice try.

The ONLY reason you see more old Chevy trucks than you do Toyota is... They have been exporting the Toyotas for the last twenty years. No one, and I mean no one, in central or South America is importing Chevys. They leave them here. Just an FYI toyotas only went on sale in Mexico in the last five years. Every other one was imported privately.

I've even seen them being shipped to Africa by sea can. They jamb about five trucks in each sea box and ship em.
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Re: Rusty Toyota Frames

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:59 pm

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This is one of my clunker Toyotas. Nothing other than normal maintenance has been done to it. I change the oil every 7,000. At this point it does use some oil between changes but with no visible smoke.

I also have a 96 4runner with 300k on the 3.4liter. Same routine with maintenance but it doesn't use oil.
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Re: Rusty Toyota Frames

PostBy: Ed.A On: Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:42 am

Wanna Bee wrote:
This is one of my clunker Toyotas. Nothing other than normal maintenance has been done to it. I change the oil every 7,000. At this point it does use some oil between changes but with no visible smoke.

I also have a 96 4runner with 300k on the 3.4liter. Same routine with maintenance but it doesn't use oil.



Awesome! Thanks for the pics
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Re: Rusty Toyota Frames

PostBy: Salemcoal On: Sat Feb 08, 2014 4:46 pm

Are you telling me that they are exporting used toyotas in mass quantities from northeastern rural new york ? Not questioning the running gear but stating an observation on my part based on where I live, I don't own a chevy/gmc . That red 4runner would be in the crusher up here. I believe Virginville PA averages about 30 inches of snow a year , not much road salt.
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Re: Rusty Toyota Frames

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Sat Feb 08, 2014 5:21 pm

Salemcoal wrote:Are you telling me that they are exporting used toyotas in mass quantities from northeastern rural new york ? Not questioning the running gear but stating an observation on my part based on where I live, I don't own a chevy/gmc . That red 4runner would be in the crusher up here. I believe Virginville PA averages about 30 inches of snow a year , not much road salt.


Yes, its been happening for at least twenty years all around the north east (problably all over the country) Salvage yards are selling them too. An exporter gives them a set price per vehicle. When they come into the yard they go into a special corral where they get prepared for shipping.

Virginville gets its fair share of ice and snow. As far as road salt...you'd think the roads are made from concrete due to the color. They salt the *censored* out of the roads around here. Plus with 400 thousand miles it has seen a lot of varying road conditions. Believe me, having a 1987 4runner in such good shape in the NE is not normal. Almost every other one around here has rust issues.
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Re: Rusty Toyota Frames

PostBy: Berlin On: Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:27 pm

anything with a boxed frame is a rust nightmare.
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Re: Rusty Toyota Frames

PostBy: Mark (PA) On: Sat Feb 08, 2014 9:32 pm

I have had great luck with Toyota's also

99 4runner with 175K and I use it hard. I have hauled plenty of overloaded hay wagons down the road with it. to the point where I am in Low Range 4x4 going up a hill sitting still at 3K RPM... Sorry Tranny... Oh well.

06 Sienna the wife drives daily.

A friend also had one of those Tacoma Frame Rust deals where they gave 150% value. He ended up getting 16K toward a new 4Runner... I have to admit I was jealous...

They do stand behind their products even if designs were initially flawed.
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Re: Rusty Toyota Frames

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:44 pm

I hose all my vehicles down with a paint sprayer filled with used motor oil. Once you drive and get crap to stick to it, it lasts quite a while before it washes off. Definitely adds some life to the vehicle, for sure. I certainly wouldn't pay money do to this - I've got like 100 gallons of used oil here I need to get rid of.

Yeah, none of the old Toyota pickups or cars around here anymore. Last I saw of any of them was in the mid 90's - fenders, trunk lids, and bed rails flapping in the wind with rot. Lots of them used to be in the junkyards too in similar condition. You'll never see one smoking though. Remember the Chrysler mini vans from the 80's? Don't think there was one on the road that DIDN'T smoke after 25k miles ... :lol:

Up here you can't find anything older than 10 years in the junkyards now. :mad: The scrap run of '08 wiped most of 'em out.
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Re: Rusty Toyota Frames

PostBy: hank2 On: Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:28 am

SMITTY wrote:Up here you can't find anything older than 10 years in the junkyards now. :mad: The scrap run of '08 wiped most of 'em out.


Was that the "Cash for clunkers" deal? I stopped at a large Toyota dealer near Hamburg, Pa. on a Sunday, when that was going on. There must have been more than a hundred vehicles in a long double row tagged as clunkers. A lot of them were sad looking, clapped out cars and trucks, but quite a few looked very presentable and not terrible old. Decent used engines became expensive and hard to find at wrecking yards. Also took a lot of available cars off the market for people that could only afford the most basic transportation. My father in law took advantage of the deal at a GM dealer. He traded a totally worn out S10 small pickup, with a v6, for a similar new small truck with a 4 ( or maybe a 5?) banger. Gas mileage on the new one had to be a certain level of improvement over the clunker trade to qualify. In his case it was just barely eligible, at something like a 3 mpg increase.
Good for him, but should the government have been spending money on a program like that?
Oh yeah, they also gave a zillion dollars to bankers.
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