Chinese auto parts strike again ...

Chinese auto parts strike again ...

PostBy: SMITTY On: Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:13 pm

So I go into the Marquis the other day while in the middle of replacing my buddy's water pump in his Volvo - wanted to see what brand water pump I had installed in the Merc. back in '07. I open the door ... pitch dark! WTF?? Brand new battery and alternator last spring! It's been parked since just before Turkey Day ...

So I throw a charger on there for a few minutes, and notice the battery light is FULL BRIGHT ... with the ignition off! WTF ...

Just wanna say ..... THANKS FOR THE PIECE OF *censored* CHINESE ALTERNATOR, AUTO ZONE! :mad2: Thing only has 6k miles on it, and was only run from April to November.

This one was a warranted replacement of one I installed in '07, so it didn't cost me anything .. yet. I think I'll try and get money back this time instead of a replacement, and go buy a Motorcraft one.
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Re: Chinese auto parts strike again ...

PostBy: samhill On: Thu Feb 06, 2014 2:53 pm

I hate to say this Smitty but you'll probably get the same thing from Motorcraft with a different metallic clue on sticker. All this crap is made according to the specs they are given by the Americans they make them for except now we get mad at the Chinese instead of them. :mad:
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Re: Chinese auto parts strike again ...

PostBy: Rob R. On: Thu Feb 06, 2014 3:25 pm

Take it to a starter & alternator shop. If you don't have any close by, go to Swanton, VT. There is a shop called "Smitty's Starter & Alternator". :) I am not kidding about the name.
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Re: Chinese auto parts strike again ...

PostBy: gaw On: Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:04 pm

samhill wrote:I hate to say this Smitty but you'll probably get the same thing from Motorcraft with a different metallic clue on sticker. All this crap is made according to the specs they are given by the Americans they make them for except now we get mad at the Chinese instead of them. :mad:


Engineered in USA Custom Manufactured in China

No joke! I actually saw that on a Kohler engine.

That is surprising that it is made in China, what’s up? Mexico not good enough.
A number of years ago where I worked they liked to save on truck parts and whenever an alternator was replaced they put these bargain rebuilds on. One of the many replacements actually made it from central PA to the New York border, about 150 miles before it *censored* the bed. Junky alternators are nothing new.
On a side note I got a rebuilt brake caliper a year or two ago that was rebuilt in….Vietnam, Vietnam?
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Re: Chinese auto parts strike again ...

PostBy: Sting On: Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:18 pm

The unit in the "name brand" box was likely built in the same place and just put in that box that day - and later they put them in a different brand box.
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Re: Chinese auto parts strike again ...

PostBy: rychw On: Thu Feb 06, 2014 6:56 pm

samhill wrote:I hate to say this Smitty but you'll probably get the same thing from Motorcraft with a different metallic clue on sticker. All this crap is made according to the specs they are given by the Americans they make them for except now we get mad at the Chinese instead of them.


I have to weigh in on this post with my own experience. NO, the Chinese junk is not as good. I restore old VW's and have done a lot of research concerning quality replacement auto parts. You have to dig deep but you can find quality. My experience has told me that the cheap Chinese parts are junk, slightly more expensive Mexican parts are junk, more expensive Brazilian parts are OK and very expensive German parts are fantastic. I replaced a master cylinder and wheel cylinder in my 74 Beetle with Chinese parts. They both failed within 6 months. Now I have German parts and have no problem. The Chinese use inferior components; metals, rubber, etc. and their machining quality is poor. I don't believe they are following the specs and if they are they cut corners.

Bottom line, you have to pay for quality and ask questions concerning country of manufacture. I could go on with many other examples including clothing, DR. Marten's shoes and appliances but I don't have all night.
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Re: Chinese auto parts strike again ...

PostBy: Keepaeyeonit On: Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:44 pm

Ha Smitts,please look at that Motorcraft alt to see if its made someplace other then China.I had my odd side injector harness go out on my 7.3 Monday got a Motorcraft one from Ford(needed it now so I had to pay the $94.00 :mad: ) and printed on a big white tag were the three dreaded words Made In China :cry: :sick: :mad: that pissed me off royally seeing that but Im not sure you can get one thats made in the USA. Keepaeyeonit
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Re: Chinese auto parts strike again ...

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Thu Feb 06, 2014 7:53 pm

I'm thinkin' The Gookers' Got Us painted into a corner. We've discussed the subject of Wheel Bearings before. Foul Mess! When it's coming from the Dealer,Confucious say that you'd expect better.....We had the Roaring 20's,Welcome to the Whoring 2000's ! It's really bad when knowing that Cheap Kills,yet you can't find a higher quality part for more money. I'm thinking we ought to somehow try to start a Quality Auto Parts Source Thread for those who care to spend more to get a quality,done right the first time,Auto Part! :bang: :cry2:
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Re: Chinese auto parts strike again ...

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:36 pm

I actually just bought a new Honda Accord. I quit smoking, my VW has too many miles to take to far away so I bought my first new car. 2014 Sport with 6spd manual. Love it.

Look if you can see what helped with my decision. If Toyota had a 6spd MT I may have gone that route but next best choice. http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news ... /index.htm
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Re: Chinese auto parts strike again ...

PostBy: DePippo79 On: Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:11 pm

Unfortunately there's very few part rebuilders left. I usually go to a place in Lawrence, MA. Typical cost to rebuild a alternator $45.00. Matt
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Re: Chinese auto parts strike again ...

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:40 pm

DePippo79 wrote:Unfortunately there's very few part rebuilders left. I usually go to a place in Lawrence, MA. Typical cost to rebuild a alternator $45.00. Matt



When I was in the garage business in the early 90s shortly after NAFTA the parts coming from Mexico were terrible. Parts from overseas were the better ones. China was not a huge player at that time except maybe body panels. A huge deciding factor of getting out of the auto biz for me was the junk parts from Mexico. Points that would fall apart in 10miles, 2 or 3 ign modules before getting a good one. I don't trust anything good coming from China either. All I have observed are substandard materials, lead paints , dog food with rat poison. And yet we still continue to trade with them. And yet our money flows to non America workers for junk.
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