I didn't realize that natural gas would be this inexpensive

Re: I didn't realize that natural gas would be this inexpensive

PostBy: lsayre On: Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:10 pm

Carbon12 wrote:Ever price out how much new electrodes would run you? I'm guessing those are the only things on the boiler that could go boom. :shock:


No, but an entire new unit of comparable KW's goes for only about $1,500. Mine may date back to the 1970's now that I'm thinking about it.
lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Stockton Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (13.5 KW)

Re: I didn't realize that natural gas would be this inexpensive

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:38 pm

If you can get electrodes for, say, a hundred bucks,.....why not do it???
Carbon12
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Other Heating: Heat Pump/Forced Hot Air Oil Furnace

Re: I didn't realize that natural gas would be this inexpensive

PostBy: McGiever On: Tue Feb 11, 2014 4:58 pm

lsayre wrote:
McGiever wrote:If you may be so bold Larry, ask to see his bill...it may just not be "delivered" price.
I recently was solicited for a rather cheaply priced NG...but solicitations never include "delivery plus all the other fees"...only the cost of the actual fuel itself.

P.S. I have no NG available here anyway.


He specifically told me $3.96/Mcf for the NG itself, and $2.50/Mcf for all of the other charges. That comes to $6.46 total.

I don't have the option for natural gas here either. It comes within about 1/3 to perhaps only 1/4 of a mile of our house though.


The "Teaser" Deals that are offered to persuade switching service providers generally are only good for 12 months.

How's that saying go?...Past Performance is Not Necessarily Indicative of Future Results

YMMV ;)
McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek


Re: I didn't realize that natural gas would be this inexpensive

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:41 pm

They have LNG tanks here to help...
When too many turn up the heat...
Then they compress air to maintain system pressure...
Problem air don't burn...
Supply pipe to The Cape is not big enough...
To take care of all the customers they sold gas lines to...
NG from the street is not perfect...
CapeCoaler
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: want AA130
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine BS#4, Harman MKII, Hitzer 503,...
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Stove

Re: I didn't realize that natural gas would be this inexpensive

PostBy: EarthWindandFire On: Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:53 pm

I was actually a little surprised today when I looked at my natural gas bill. My monthly charge was $ 53.00 dollars. The only appliance that uses gas is my 30 gallon water heater. We are a family of four but use very little water. The two kids are both boys. It just seems higher than I remember.
EarthWindandFire
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Leisure Line Lil' Heater.
Other Heating: Oil Furnace and Kerosene Heaters.

Re: I didn't realize that natural gas would be this inexpensive

PostBy: blrman07 On: Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:28 pm

During the shoulder months I heat our DHW with coal. I use about 1/2 bucket a day which is around 20 pounds and runs me $1.60 in coal. Your bill of $53 for the month to heat water seems to fall pretty much in line. That works out to $1.76 a day. Only way you can get it cheaper is a coil in the boiler or stove or furnace.

Rev. Larry
New Beginning Church
Ashland Pa.
blrman07
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Bucket a Day
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant Casting 2310
Baseburners & Antiques: rebuilding a 1906 March Brownback Double Heater, using a UMCO 1920's Pot Belly stove in the church
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Wood in the VC and anything that will fit in the Bucket a Day. It's not fussy.

Re: I didn't realize that natural gas would be this inexpensive

PostBy: ramblerboy2 On: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:02 pm

I heat with natural gas now, with one of those efficient wall hung boilers. It's quite cheap but a little higher than it was last winter. Our worst bill was $250 this winter. Not bad. Total for the year runs us about $1200; heat, domestic hot water, cooking (on huge ancient gas range with double ovens, six burners, and five pilot lights). The last oil house on my street was converted this year.

Here in Connecticut, I don't think I could do much better than this with coal. Being a "belt and suspenders" guy, I'd like to diversify by adding a coal boiler into the mix, but it is not critical what with gas costs being so reasonable.

We've definitely noticed that the gas flames on our kitchen stove look funky during deep cold spells, presumably because of the crap the utility is running to dilute the gas. A lot more orange flame and a lot more flickering.
ramblerboy2
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Surdiac MCK 508
Other Heating: Embassy Ambassador BMS natural gas boiler

Re: I didn't realize that natural gas would be this inexpensive

PostBy: tjnamtiw On: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:09 pm

Don't forget that the current regime is pushing very hard to compress that gas and ship it to Europe in retaliation for Russia's laughing at our feckless gov't. One large plant has just been completed and 7 more have the approval to start construction. We're already shipping the coal we aren't allowed to burn to China for them to burn any way they see fit so why not ship another of our natural resources out of the country?
tjnamtiw
 
Other Heating: Sopka Cook stove

Re: I didn't realize that natural gas would be this inexpensive

PostBy: blrman07 On: Sat Apr 19, 2014 7:11 am

The highest Natural Gas bill for our church was $146. We kept the sanctuary at 45 when none occupied and at 70 when it was. There were some days that the temps just wouldn't get there but that was when it was in the minus range outside and an ice buildup on the windows. That older donated 100k BTU/HR furnace just couldn't over come the heat loss.

We are taking steps this summer like adding some insulation, fixing air leaks, etc so hopefully that bill will be our highest. If the cost goes up drastically we can switch to coal and install a couple of stokers or one big unit.

Rev. Larry
New Beginning Church
Ashland Pa.
blrman07
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Bucket a Day
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant Casting 2310
Baseburners & Antiques: rebuilding a 1906 March Brownback Double Heater, using a UMCO 1920's Pot Belly stove in the church
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Wood in the VC and anything that will fit in the Bucket a Day. It's not fussy.