Lost power last night but...

Lost power last night but...

PostBy: Kungur On: Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:20 am

My wife woke me up in the middle of the night saying the power had been off for an hour or more, but was now back on. I went down to check on the K-2 boiler expecting to find lots of coal in the ash pan! But it was still going and the water temp had not dropped too much! I guess the draft must have been enough to carry it through.
Kungur
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: K-2

Re: Lost power last night but...

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:42 am

NICE K :)
freetown fred
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut/Stove mix

Re: Lost power last night but...

PostBy: samhill On: Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:48 am

Lucked out on that one, I don't think my stoker would recover after that amount of time especially with the below zero night time temps.
samhill
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: keystoker 160
Hand Fed Coal Stove: hitzer 75 in garage
Stove/Furnace Make: keystoker/hitzer
Stove/Furnace Model: koker 160/ hitzer 75

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Re: Lost power last night but...

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:59 am

Yes Sir, our Keystoker boilers sure do impress! Longest mine has kept burning without power that I've tested is 90 minutes. I wonder how large a battery bank of deep cycle batteries you'd need to give any meaningful burn time to the boiler? Probably lots of batteries costing lots of $$$. Really need to look into a whole house generator with automatic cut in. I wouldn't want to power the whole house but the boiler, air handler, well pump and some lights and the microwave and refrigerator would be nice.
Carbon12
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Other Heating: Heat Pump/Forced Hot Air Oil Furnace

Re: Lost power last night but...

PostBy: McGiever On: Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:30 am

Get a battery powered golf cart...ride cart 3 seasons and use it's reserve power for back-up when it's heating season...buying and owning batteries ought to do more than sit around waiting for utility power to fail. :D
McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: Lost power last night but...

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:39 am

That's true! What I really need is a tractor with a small bucket to move coal and load the bin. Not in the budget, unfortunately :(
Carbon12
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Other Heating: Heat Pump/Forced Hot Air Oil Furnace

Re: Lost power last night but...

PostBy: hcarlow On: Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:18 pm

Very good , the longest I have gone so far is about 30 min. .
hcarlow
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL 110

Re: Lost power last night but...

PostBy: titleist1 On: Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:06 pm

Carbon12 wrote:I wouldn't want to power the whole house but the boiler, air handler, well pump and some lights and the microwave and refrigerator would be nice.


Next summer watch C-List for generators to go on sale by all the folks who bought one this winter. You can get some good deals if you watch for a while. I got one last summer for $900 that is a 10K unit.
titleist1
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: Lost power last night but...

PostBy: SMITTY On: Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:23 pm

Lucky for me my boiler seems to have that same draft characteristic. One power outage the fire was still there after 55 minutes.

When I cleaned out the boiler last month, it took me about that long. Covered the fire with ash, and I thought that was it. Plugged in the combustion fan, and to my amazement, a little red fire the size of a dime started to appear. :D I couldn't believe it.
SMITTY
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III (not currently in use)
Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

Re: Lost power last night but...

PostBy: KLook On: Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:35 pm

The son reported that the VF3000 made it to 3 hours once and just over 2 hours another time this winter. He felt that it died while in the middle of a full burn and is probably right. Up there, it is in the middle of a burn more often then not! :lol:

Kevin
KLook
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Harman VF 3000
Coal Size/Type: rice, bagged, Blaschak
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman (Back In Maine)
Stove/Furnace Model: VF 3000

Re: Lost power last night but...

PostBy: titleist1 On: Tue Feb 11, 2014 3:48 pm

I think it was just last Thurs we lost power about 4:30, i didn't fire up the gen until 7 and the fire came alive in the mag stoker. It happened earlier this year too when i shut down for a clean out, something like 2 hours later there was still red coal on the grates, flipped the switch and the fan got it going again. I was very surprised for a flat bed stoker to last that long.
titleist1
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: Lost power last night but...

PostBy: oliver power On: Tue Feb 11, 2014 6:39 pm

Before having a whole house generator, I happen to be home when the power went out twice. Went to shop for generator. Come back, shoveled a place for generator, ran a cord to boiler control box, started generator, and never lost fire. I was impressed, and it was no where near two hours. Now I'm really impressed! I guess there is an advantage to owning a Kaa-2 boiler. The advantage is having to maintain a bigger idle fire. Bigger idle fire means the fire should last longer during power outages. Come to think of it, maybe ALL carpet stokers should maintain a bigger idle fire for power outages purposes.
Last edited by oliver power on Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:46 am, edited 2 times in total.
oliver power
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: KEYSTOKER Kaa-2
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93 & 30-95, Vigilant (pre-Vigilant-II)
Baseburners & Antiques: MANY (Mostly when burning wood)
Stove/Furnace Make: HITZER / KEYSTOKER
Stove/Furnace Model: 50-93 & 30-95 , Kaa-2

Re: Lost power last night but...

PostBy: oliver power On: Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:00 pm

Carbon12 wrote:Yes Sir, our Keystoker boilers sure do impress! Longest mine has kept burning without power that I've tested is 90 minutes. I wonder how large a battery bank of deep cycle batteries you'd need to give any meaningful burn time to the boiler? Probably lots of batteries costing lots of $$$. Really need to look into a whole house generator with automatic cut in. I wouldn't want to power the whole house but the boiler, air handler, well pump and some lights and the microwave and refrigerator would be nice.
When we had our whole house generator installed, I too had the choice of different packages. I chose to power the whole place, including central air. Since then, we've had many power outages. We go on living as if never loosing power. I recommend powering the whole house. Yes, it's more expensive. But you'll never regret it. A friend of mine owns an electrical company. He highly recommended http://www.homepowersystems.net/Contact ... terNY.aspx for the job. Says of all the places he's been to, this company does a nice neat job. Some of the nicest jobs he has seen. So I took his advice. I have to say, I'm very satisfied with the entire experience. In case anyone wonders why my electrical contractor friend didn't do the job, it's because he is always backed up, and busy. I offered the job to him first.
oliver power
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: KEYSTOKER Kaa-2
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93 & 30-95, Vigilant (pre-Vigilant-II)
Baseburners & Antiques: MANY (Mostly when burning wood)
Stove/Furnace Make: HITZER / KEYSTOKER
Stove/Furnace Model: 50-93 & 30-95 , Kaa-2

Re: Lost power last night but...

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:52 pm

Oliver, thanks for the advice! I would love a whole house generator. I'm just apprehensive about the 5 ton A/C heat pump. Not sure what it would draw but I'm sure it's a lot. I could live without that during a power outage. I would size the generator to be able to run everything else in the house, just not all at the same time. I'd like to be able to pick and choose which circuits to energize and when. I'm guessing, but I think the largest single power draw would be the electric stove or the well pump on start up. I'll have to have a knowledgable generator person look at my needs and give me options. I can always cook on the propane grill and the boiler and air handler don't draw much.
Carbon12
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Other Heating: Heat Pump/Forced Hot Air Oil Furnace

Re: Lost power last night but...

PostBy: McGiever On: Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:57 pm

The 5 ton HP not multistage?
McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

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