I'll show you my ash if you show me yours......

I'll show you my ash if you show me yours......

PostBy: dhansen On: Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:12 pm

As a new coal burner I'm curious about the function of my Glenwood No.116 compared to other stoves, operators and brands of coal. I'm burning a 50/50 mix of Kimmel nut and stove, about 70 pounds in 24 hours. I run the stove almost completely shut down to hold the barrel temp between 350 and 400 degrees. I don't mix it 50/50 but use the stove size to get the fire back up and going before finishing the load with nut, so, the charge of coal ends up layered. This photo shows a typical ash load after shaking down a 12 hour burn. Plenty of powder ash but a good amount of crunchy chunks too. Most of it is grey with a few hints of red.

I can't imagine this stove working any better but I have nothing to compare my experiences to. Maybe I can do better!

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Stove/Furnace Make: Glenwood No.6 and No.116

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PostBy: KingCoal On: Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:40 pm

if you push on those pieces that are still shaped somewhat like coal do they pop apart and go to loose dust ?

if so, i'd say you're doing well. can't say for sure about the volume of ash for the burn period. no experience with either Kimmels or a 116.
KingCoal
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DSM 1400, Riteway # 37, Comforter Stove Works
Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
Other Heating: none
Stove/Furnace Model: 2013 1400 Circulator

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PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:01 pm

Pretty much the same as yours - chunkers and dust. All those chunks can be broken up finer with just finger pressure.

No idea which breaker my bulk supplier gets this nut coal from.

That pans about the same size as the one in my 118 and bigger than the one in my picture, but not by much. If that's 24 hours of ash, that's not much ash for 70 pounds burned. Mines burning about half that in 24 hours and look how full the pan is compared to yours. I'd say your doing good ! ;)

Paul
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

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PostBy: Scottaw On: Tue Feb 11, 2014 7:51 pm

Nice thread, I've thought about this for awhile. I'll snap a pic soon, but
Mine is a lot more powder, less chunks. I'm sure it has something to do with the different grate designs. I burn reading nut size in a hitzer 50-93 for reference.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer
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PostBy: dhansen On: Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:10 pm

The chunks in mine do crumble in my fingers. That is 12 hours worth of ash in my photo.

Paul, are you saying your 118 only burns 35 pounds of coal in 24 hours? What temperature is your barrel at?
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Stove/Furnace Make: Glenwood No.6 and No.116

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PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:48 pm

dhansen wrote:The chunks in mine do crumble in my fingers. That is 12 hours worth of ash in my photo.

Paul, are you saying your 118 only burns 35 pounds of coal in 24 hours? What temperature is your barrel at?


Sorry for the confusion, but nope.

Your pan is about the same size as my 118, . . . but, . . "bigger than the pan in my picture", . . which is the pan from my kitchen range. The range burns about 32-34 pounds in 24 hours in these colder temps.

My 118 is still undergoing restoration. That 118 firepot will probably hold more than double the firebox of my range ! :shock:
Going by your 70 lbs a day for your 116, I figure for the added size of my 118 at roughly nine months heating, it's going to need 10 tons of coal. :shock:

Still cheaper than fuel oil, . . . but I hope my calculator is waaayyy off !

Paul
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

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PostBy: dhansen On: Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:26 pm

Thanks for the clarification Paul. I was worried there for a moment. I suspect that 118 will put out some serious heat.

With my 116 closed up and the MPD virtually closed, it purrs along at 350 to 400 degrees on the barrel and about 170 degrees just above the MPD. I might be able to run it a little cooler if I work on tightening up the ash door some more. When I first ran the stove I couldn't get it below 450.
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Stove/Furnace Make: Glenwood No.6 and No.116

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PostBy: KingCoal On: Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:49 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:
dhansen wrote:The chunks in mine do crumble in my fingers. That is 12 hours worth of ash in my photo.

Paul, are you saying your 118 only burns 35 pounds of coal in 24 hours? What temperature is your barrel at?


Sorry for the confusion, but nope.

Your pan is about the same size as my 118, . . . but, . . "bigger than the pan in my picture", . . which is the pan from my kitchen range. The range burns about 32-34 pounds in 24 hours in these colder temps.

My 118 is still undergoing restoration. That 118 firepot will probably hold more than double the firebox of my range ! :shock:
Going by your 70 lbs a day for your 116, I figure for the added size of my 118 at roughly nine months heating, it's going to need 10 tons of coal. :shock:

Still cheaper than fuel oil, . . . but I hope my calculator is waaayyy off !

Paul


yes, i'm certain your calculator needs adjusting.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: DSM 1400, Riteway # 37, Comforter Stove Works
Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
Other Heating: none
Stove/Furnace Model: 2013 1400 Circulator

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PostBy: dcrane On: Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:02 am

takes me 4 minutes every 12 hours to deal with my stove... took me 14 minutes to find cam, take photo, find the stupid computer wire and upload :mad3:
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PostBy: Rob R. On: Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:25 am

Nice Doug...there is NOTHING wasted in those ashes.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
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Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

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PostBy: KingCoal On: Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:06 am

indeed, that is super impressive. you have every right to be proud of those stoves.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: DSM 1400, Riteway # 37, Comforter Stove Works
Coal Size/Type: Nut Anth.
Other Heating: none
Stove/Furnace Model: 2013 1400 Circulator

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PostBy: Lightning On: Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:32 am

Here's mine , with and without the camera flash. Has a little unburnt coal in it. I shake the holy hell out of it :lol:
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Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1537G
Coal Size/Type: Nut Size / White Ash

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PostBy: dcrane On: Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:57 am

Lightning wrote:Here's mine , with and without the camera flash. Has a little unburnt coal in it. I shake the holy hell out of it :lol:


:annoyed:
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404

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PostBy: SMITTY On: Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:20 pm

Wow that's superfine stuff there.

Mine looks just like a granola bar, but different animal burning it - I've got a stoker boiler. It hangs off the edge of the stoker assembly 5" sometimes before it busts off and falls into the pan. Blaschak bagged rice - pics from when the stoker was first lit:

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The unburnt coal in the bottom corner fell off the burn bar there - overflows sometimes. Next season I'll polish the ramp up.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Patriot Coal - custom built by Jim Dorsey
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Coal Size/Type: Rice / Blaschak anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired Burnham boiler

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PostBy: dcrane On: Wed Feb 12, 2014 12:48 pm

Smitty: "Wow that's superfine stuff there. Mine looks just like a granola bar"

Thats cause you got one of them their Harman Granola Bar Makers :lol:
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