dcrane wrote:I bet money you could increase the height of the pan by at least 1/2" without effecting performance at all (If he does a second one for the Harman have him try it). Even if your carrying a hot ashpan id still prefer Fred's style over that stupid swinging unbalanced mistake (you need to grab the upper lip, does that swing handle hit the door opening?) I guess because im a guy its easier for me just to one hand it on Fred's style with a pot holder right out the door ... can we ask how much Fred charges for a custom ash pan?
Believe me between DK, an engineer and Freddy, we tried to increase the volume of the ashpan. There is no way to do so because of the lip the Harmans have on the ash compartment. The ash pan doesn't slide out, you have to lift it over the 1.5 or 2 inch lip. It's a tight fit especially when the ash pan is really full after a longer burn.
That lip is a pain in the butt. It reduces the height of the ashpan by a couple of inches. Additionally, since the ash pan doesn't quite fit width wise, a lot of ash misses the pan and has to be dug out frequently. As you know anytime you have to mess with the ash outside the stove, you are going to release ash into the room; even a little released ash is too much. I consider that ash as my nemesis.
The swinging handle actually folds down to become the top 1/2 inch of one side of the pan. That's why it leaks with the lid on. I always wear my welders gloves when dealing with the stove or hot ashpan. As I said, I remove the hot pan, put the lid on and let it cool before I take it outside the next day.
That way the pan is cool and I can carry it with out gloves. Being able to deal with a cool ash pan is also a safety thing. I worry about dropping the ashpan inside and leaving an unnoticed hot coal on my wood floor. Sadly, I did drop the ashpan a few days ago when I tripped over the cord to the stove's fan. I'm thankful that I was dealing with a cold ashpan.
I can't say how much Freddy charges for an ashpan and lid. I'm a capitalist and the market, i.e. Freddy, sets the price. I do know I got a great deal and a much better product than what Harman supplies with their new units. Lisa