Smoke in the House!

Re: Smoke in the House!

PostBy: AZiggs On: Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:29 pm

Carbon12 wrote:Is the flap that opens before or after the fan that blowers the exhaust up the chimney?


The fan is on the stove side of the chimney. So it would be stove-flapper-fan-roof
AZiggs
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker 90 (I think?)
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Other Heating: Electric Baseboard

Re: Smoke in the House!

PostBy: titleist1 On: Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:29 pm

baro maybe?
titleist1
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: Smoke in the House!

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:34 pm

Metal chimney or masonry chimney?
Carbon12
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Other Heating: Heat Pump/Forced Hot Air Oil Furnace


Re: Smoke in the House!

PostBy: Short Bus On: Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:37 pm

Draft inducer pushing into a barometric damper? Need Pictures.
Short Bus
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Kewanee boiler with Anchor stoker
Coal Size/Type: Chestnut / Sub-bituminous C
Other Heating: Propane wall furnace back up only

Re: Smoke in the House!

PostBy: Lightning On: Tue Feb 18, 2014 2:44 pm

Its been installed for several years it seems. Should have configuration right by now, one would think anyways lol. I'm thinking it needs a thorough cleaning and chimney checked along with inspection of critical components.
Lightning
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1537G
Coal Size/Type: Nut/Stove Size Mix

Re: Smoke in the House!

PostBy: WNYRob On: Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:27 pm

Definitely something wrong with your draft. The combustion blower needs to be on all the time for the coal to burn and to burn efficiently, the damper plate should be 1/4 to 1/2 open. If you are pressurizing your fire box with the blower's plate barely open, the exhaust is not making it into your chimney. Seeing as how there was already a draft inducer installed provides evidence the draft was a problem before you took over the reigns.

Like others have said, manometer, manometer, manometer, coal stoves should not be run without one!!!!!! Having one for spot checks is good, having one permanently installed is best. CO detectors are also important, sounds like you have that covered, and keeping the stove clean is a must. For both safety and longevity of its corrode-able surfaces, which includes but not limited to, well, every dang surface that fly ash touches!!!!!
WNYRob
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker Koker controlled with CoalTrol

Re: Smoke in the House!

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:28 pm

Yup,...one or more things seem to be a mis.
Carbon12
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Other Heating: Heat Pump/Forced Hot Air Oil Furnace

Re: Smoke in the House!

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:49 pm

AZiggs,

Please fill out the rest of your profile including your general location.
As someone who posts here an awful lot says "Ain't no one gonna come steal ya." But in actuality, there might be someone close to you who could come over and check your set up and explain the operation of the unit to you.





Rick
Rick 386
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AA 260 heating both sides of twin farmhouse
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL Hyfire II w/ coaltrol in garage
Coal Size/Type: Pea in AA 260, Rice in LL Hyfire II
Other Heating: Gas fired infared at work

Re: Smoke in the House!

PostBy: warminmn On: Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:40 pm

Test your Carbon Monoxide detectors to make sure they are working because I would think you would have some leaking. Search online on how to check them as thats easier then me trying to explain and telling you wrong.
warminmn
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Chubby Junior, Efel Nestor Martin
Coal Size/Type: nut and stove anthracite. Soft coal
Other Heating: wood

Re: Smoke in the House!

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Tue Feb 18, 2014 5:58 pm

Yup, where are you located? Many of us, myself included, could diagnose the problem better in person, if you're up for that kind of thing. We won't steal ya! :D
Carbon12
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Other Heating: Heat Pump/Forced Hot Air Oil Furnace

Re: Smoke in the House!

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:09 pm

OK fellow concerned coal burners.

Already spoke with him and probably will be talking more tonight when he gets home. He lives near Fleetwood, PA if anyone is near by.

The pipe has not been pulled since he moved in and he thinks he may have put 4 ton through it. So the first order of business will be for him to pull the pipe and check and probably clean a bunch of fly ash out of it. Already mentioned the importance of him getting a manometer so he can monitor the draft.

House is like a 2 story cape so he should be drafting well but we'll get to that after the cleaning.

And he said that even with the shutter on the combustion blower almost fully closed, he was getting moisture on the hopper lid So draft appears to be the issue right now.

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I'm sure he or I will keep you updated.



Rick
Rick 386
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AA 260 heating both sides of twin farmhouse
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL Hyfire II w/ coaltrol in garage
Coal Size/Type: Pea in AA 260, Rice in LL Hyfire II
Other Heating: Gas fired infared at work

Re: Smoke in the House!

PostBy: AZiggs On: Tue Feb 18, 2014 7:11 pm

Thanks Rick :-)
AZiggs
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker 90 (I think?)
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Other Heating: Electric Baseboard

Re: Smoke in the House!

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:32 pm

Rick, you're awesome. Keep us abreast of how he's making out with his stove.
I'm On Fire
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machines DS-1600 Hot Air Circulator

Re: Smoke in the House!

PostBy: davidmcbeth3 On: Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:57 pm

That stove seems to really hate you ... should never have smoke coming out ... I think your stove is trying to kill you.
davidmcbeth3
 
Coal Size/Type: nut/pea/anthra
Stove/Furnace Make: Hitzer
Stove/Furnace Model: 503

Re: Smoke in the House!

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:59 pm

Rick386-Coal Field Agent! Nice Job.....Possibly Another One Saved! Seems like a Warm Spell Is Coming On,Time to get in there after shutting and cooling it down. Get the manual for that unit Online and read it. Get your stove pipe apart,clean it,check for any pin holes from corrosion. Check for flyash in the pipe. I never picked up if you had a masonry chimney or the stainless pipe type. If you can safely get up on the roof without killing yourself,check the whole deal out. These Guys are helping you crack this problem wide open! :up:
Hambden Bob
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman 1998 Magnum Stoker
Coal Size/Type: Rice-A-Roni !