Under my plan energy costs must necessarily skyrocket

Under my plan energy costs must necessarily skyrocket

PostBy: lsayre On: Tue Feb 18, 2014 4:32 pm

And here it comes. An Obama official warns us to prepare for 70% to 80% higher electricity prices in the not too distant future.

http://www.offthegridnews.com/2014/02/1 ... ial-warns/

And as for other news, a new poll indicates that 71% of the people who voted for Obama in the last election now say they had made a mistake in doing so, and actually regret what they did. But when those same 71% were then asked if they would vote for Romney if they knew then what they know now only 10% of the 71% said they would do so, and the rest would still vote for Obama.

http://washingtonexaminer.com/poll-71-o ... le/2544165
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Re: Under my plan energy costs must necessarily skyrocket

PostBy: cabinover On: Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:23 pm

Makes those solar panels on rooftops I see look better every day.
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Re: Under my plan energy costs must necessarily skyrocket

PostBy: Bhvacr On: Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:27 pm

Now I am in PA... my neighbors just opened the Elec bill and the price per KW has doubled. Evidently.. due to the deregulation our wonderful government stuck their nose in... the optional power retailers did not buy enough power to make it through the winter and are now short on power for their subscribers... so.. the rates went up... What a joke.
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Re: Under my plan energy costs must necessarily skyrocket

PostBy: grumpy On: Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:39 pm

cabinover wrote:Makes those solar panels on rooftops I see look better every day.



They want to tax you on them now, selling power back to the grid is a no no.. making your own power is bad, yeah bad for who..
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Re: Under my plan energy costs must necessarily skyrocket

PostBy: cabinover On: Tue Feb 18, 2014 8:42 pm

Here in VT, at the present mind you, they are doing net metering. Give when you're making, take when you're not making. Was just talking with a homeowner that does it. He said it works out well for him.
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Re: Under my plan energy costs must necessarily skyrocket

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Tue Feb 18, 2014 9:40 pm

Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil! Sieg Heil!
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Re: Under my plan energy costs must necessarily skyrocket

PostBy: Richard S. On: Tue Feb 18, 2014 10:16 pm

grumpy wrote:They want to tax you on them now, selling power back to the grid is a no no.. making your own power is bad, yeah bad for who..


Grumpy I don;t know where the tax part is coming from but the only way these homeowner installations will ever be economically viable is tied to the grid and if they are tied to the grid they need to pay for it. That is not a free service.

As far as taxes go its quite the opposite, the installation of these system usually has 30% tax credit from the feds and 20% from the state. 50% of it is paid for by the government. That's only the start because the way it's usually setup is you generate a "green credit" for X amount of power. That is sold back to the power company so they can meet mandates for renewable energy, those costs are passed onto the ratepayers. That's why you have this leasing companies that will come in and install panels for you cheap, they are after that credit.
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Re: Under my plan energy costs must necessarily skyrocket

PostBy: Yanche On: Wed Feb 19, 2014 12:25 am

I've got a engineer friend that installed a large solar array system on his house. He oversized it and it is grid connected. Annually the local utility actually pays him. He's a former West Virgina milk farmer that made a dramatic career change. He has lots of farmer fix it skills, a engineering degree and a registered professional engineer license. Yes, he got tax incentives for the system, which he used to buy all the tools needed to fab and install the system himself. To qualify for the credits the system must be fully permitted and approved which was no problem for him. It's been in operation about 5 years and has paid for itself. He heats his house with wood. No, I can't talk him into switching to coal. He says he has free wood and sons that need exercise.
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Re: Under my plan energy costs must necessarily skyrocket

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Wed Feb 19, 2014 6:16 am

Down the road from us is a house with oversized solar panels too but I don't know if it is grid tied or not, I suspect it is. The complete array ended up in his garden three years ago thx to icing and now he has rebuilt. I bet it ends up there again. Power? It's been covered with snow for weeks now... power output is zero. His backup heat is heat pump and right now he is freezing his a$$ off. Things that work in the tropics of MD do not apply here. Next you will tell me he should have put in geothermal...... you're a riot Yanche.
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