Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

Re: Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:07 pm

Carbon12 wrote:To whom it may concern: I will be receiving a coal delivery tomorrow. Your vehicle is obstructing this delivery. All attempts will be made to ensure the safety of your vehicle but should a mishap occur, you will assume all liability to your vehicle's damage since you refuse to move it and have been duly warned of the hazard.

Have a nice day,....a$$ hole!


Hey, the firemen smash windows and pass the hoses through cars all the time. Maybe have the coal delivery guy smash the window of the Jeep then chute the coal on the driver's seat.
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Re: Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

PostBy: kstills On: Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:09 pm

mark, I'm looking at your house, and I'm thinking if the coal truck backed up to the jeep, slightly on the walk, and you built an extension that you could either attach to the window or slide out of the window, your problem would be mostly eliminated.
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Re: Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:11 pm

I know it would be a pain you shouldn't have to endure, but could they dump the coal in your driveway? You could get some friends or pay some neighborhood kids to dump it into your bin. Doesn't really take long to move a ton of coal short distances.
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Re: Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

PostBy: titleist1 On: Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:18 pm

Is there a driveway to your existing garage that I guess is in the back of the house? If so, would it do any good to offer to have them park in that area during coal delivery day? Is there enough room so they don't block your car in too. You could extend the offer to park there when it has snowed so the plows can make a clean sweep of the street to the curb in front of the house without the jeep in the way.

My parents do this with a neighbor during snow storms. they get 4 cars in the lengthy driveway and the street is clear to the curb for the plow to make a nice pass. Admittedly their neighbors are more neighborly than yours seem to be.
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Re: Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

PostBy: SWPaDon On: Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:20 pm

MarkG wrote:
SWPaDon wrote:Pacowy is onto something, and I'll add to it. At the end of the porch, just inside the gate, can you cut another window in there for coal delivery?

P.S. Not exactly sure where the coal storage is.


This is an option I've considered as well since the bin is directly under the porch and there's plenty of room there to cut a new hole. At this point, it's seeming like the most likely solution to resolve the problem quickly and with the least amount of headaches involved.

Get the proper permit for a driveway from your town, take part of the fence out, and if your neighbor blocks that...........you do have the right to have the car towed at his expense.
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Re: Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

PostBy: rberq On: Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:33 pm

MarkG wrote:... the bin is directly under the porch and there's plenty of room there to cut a new hole. At this point, it's seeming like the most likely solution to resolve the problem quickly and with the least amount of headaches involved.

Sounds like a good plan, if you can't get the town to set up a small loading zone for you.
The down side is, your unreasonable neighbor will say to himself, "What was all the fuss about? He should have done that in the first place." :lol:
But in the end, problem solved, you win.
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Re: Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

PostBy: NWBuilder On: Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:46 pm

I am so glad I live in the boonies with no neighbors close enough to bother me and the ones I have would do anything for me and I for them. You are a better man then I am Mark. More patient anyway. You have several good ideas here, personally I like the beer and pizza night and trailer idea too. Nice work Rick. Best of luck, you know by the 9 pages of replies you have a lot of support from some very good people. I hope you can resolve this with limited expense and further turmoil! NWB
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Re: Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

PostBy: MarkG On: Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:56 pm

Carbon12 wrote:I've only ever seen my coal truck deliver straight back from the chute. Can the chute be turned 90 degrees to the back of the truck and deliver sideways?


Yep, this is how they do it for us.
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Re: Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

PostBy: MarkG On: Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:56 pm

I'm On Fire wrote:
Carbon12 wrote:To whom it may concern: I will be receiving a coal delivery tomorrow. Your vehicle is obstructing this delivery. All attempts will be made to ensure the safety of your vehicle but should a mishap occur, you will assume all liability to your vehicle's damage since you refuse to move it and have been duly warned of the hazard.

Have a nice day,....a$$ hole!


Hey, the firemen smash windows and pass the hoses through cars all the time. Maybe have the coal delivery guy smash the window of the Jeep then chute the coal on the driver's seat.

:lol:
MarkG
 
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Re: Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

PostBy: MarkG On: Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:57 pm

kstills wrote:mark, I'm looking at your house, and I'm thinking if the coal truck backed up to the jeep, slightly on the walk, and you built an extension that you could either attach to the window or slide out of the window, your problem would be mostly eliminated.

This could also be an option. Thank you for the suggestion. I don't mind the truck backing up onto the sidewalk if it has to.
MarkG
 
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Re: Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

PostBy: MarkG On: Fri Feb 21, 2014 1:59 pm

Carbon12 wrote:I know it would be a pain you shouldn't have to endure, but could they dump the coal in your driveway? You could get some friends or pay some neighborhood kids to dump it into your bin. Doesn't really take long to move a ton of coal short distances.


I suppose they could definitely leave it next to the porch as a last resort. I wouldn't mind shoveling it in and I know plenty of people who would help - even for free.
MarkG
 
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Re: Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

PostBy: MarkG On: Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:09 pm

titleist1 wrote:Is there a driveway to your existing garage that I guess is in the back of the house? If so, would it do any good to offer to have them park in that area during coal delivery day? Is there enough room so they don't block your car in too. You could extend the offer to park there when it has snowed so the plows can make a clean sweep of the street to the curb in front of the house without the jeep in the way.

My parents do this with a neighbor during snow storms. they get 4 cars in the lengthy driveway and the street is clear to the curb for the plow to make a nice pass. Admittedly their neighbors are more neighborly than yours seem to be.


There is a driveway to my garage, and they have one as well. So there's ample room for them to park back there for all of the 20 minutes it takes to unload the coal or to allow the street to be cleared.
MarkG
 
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Re: Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

PostBy: MarkG On: Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:10 pm

Get the proper permit for a driveway from your town, take part of the fence out, and if your neighbor blocks that...........you do have the right to have the car towed at his expense.


Will definitely be looking into this. Thanks!
MarkG
 
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Re: Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

PostBy: MarkG On: Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:12 pm

rberq wrote:
MarkG wrote:... the bin is directly under the porch and there's plenty of room there to cut a new hole. At this point, it's seeming like the most likely solution to resolve the problem quickly and with the least amount of headaches involved.

Sounds like a good plan, if you can't get the town to set up a small loading zone for you.
The down side is, your unreasonable neighbor will say to himself, "What was all the fuss about? He should have done that in the first place." :lol:
But in the end, problem solved, you win.


That's all I'm after, is a quick, easy resolution ;)
MarkG
 
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Re: Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

PostBy: MarkG On: Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:15 pm

NWBuilder wrote:I am so glad I live in the boonies with no neighbors close enough to bother me and the ones I have would do anything for me and I for them. You are a better man then I am Mark. More patient anyway. You have several good ideas here, personally I like the beer and pizza night and trailer idea too. Nice work Rick. Best of luck, you know by the 9 pages of replies you have a lot of support from some very good people. I hope you can resolve this with limited expense and further turmoil! NWB


Thank you!

There are very good ideas here, and it's just proof that sometimes a fresh look at a situation can provide some clarity. I'm humbled by the support that I have from all of you - I wish I had all of you for neighbors, that's for sure!
MarkG
 
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