Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

Re: Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

PostBy: rberq On: Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:41 pm

MarkG wrote:I contacted the borough ... They said that there is nothing that can be done except to call the police every time

What happens when you do that?
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Re: Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

PostBy: MarkG On: Thu Feb 20, 2014 9:49 pm

rberq wrote:
MarkG wrote:I contacted the borough ... They said that there is nothing that can be done except to call the police every time

What happens when you do that?


I haven't called them yet. Today was the first time I reached out to the borough about it because I've finally had enough. I wanted to see if I had any options outside of calling the police first. We'll find out next time, because there will be a next time, unless it's resolved by then.
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Re: Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

PostBy: BigFoot On: Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:02 pm

put a gate in your fence and a sign saying don't block the drive way !!!!
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Re: Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

PostBy: dcrane On: Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:13 pm

BigFoot wrote:put a gate in your fence and a sign saying don't block the drive way !!!!


I dont think they are blocking the driveway but rather the front yard where the coal truck need to access the coal bin, I like the idea of buying a permanent piece of shyt vehicle and squatting (Smitty's got 6 or 7 kickin' around im sure :lol: )

I will say this... Its pretty clear things are past the point of repair and the neighborhood joins you in this distaste, harassment, ill will, purposeful efforts to upset the harmony of the neighborhood, etc?
It cost money.... but as sure as im sitting here a good attorney can make anyone's life a living hell (right wrong or indifferent an attorney could start slinging things that would upset their world to such a degree they WOULD move their car swiftly!) He can start with the least invasive letter simply explaining his intentions to file suet... he will say once this suet begins it will not end until trial! he can recommend trying to communicate and be understanding of someones life, liberty, persuet of happiness, right to access heat, and a million other things i dont know because im not an attorney! If they were smart people they would remedy the situation or the civil suet starts and with every motion, deposition, court appearance, they will wish they moved their car because that attorney will suing them for assets including the house they live in and his fee's in the end (go ahead and laugh... but good attorneys can do serious damage to people if they wanted to and the real beauty is....they do it legally toothy )
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Re: Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

PostBy: Horace On: Thu Feb 20, 2014 10:19 pm

Didn't I just read somewhere that there are 7,500 members on this site? Or was it 3,500? Either way, the next time Mark schedules a delivery we should all show up.

Moving out isn't the answer. It's your house. You stated that it has everything that you wanted and needed when you bought it. You are not the problem. Since you recently purchased it, you probably have already sunk money into it in the form of down payment, closing costs, good faith deposits, attorney's fees, etc etc. If you even tried to sell it now, the lender would probably hit you with a fee for selling within the first five to ten years (it's in the small print somewhere.) That's not the point, though. The point is, you shouldn't have to even think of selling.

I think that we all agree that you're absolutely in the right and have every right to expect this consideration. It's a once-a-month thing. I'm very curious what the police would advise if you called and asked them conversationally. Not lodge a formal complaint. Just seek their advice.

I have an Pearl old drum set here that I bet your kid would love. :D

MarkG wrote:They burn oil

Pee in it. It probably won't do any harm, but I'll bet you'll giggle like a ten-year-old schoolgirl every time you hear the furnace kick on.
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Re: Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

PostBy: titleist1 On: Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:14 pm

MarkG wrote:
Carbon12 wrote:What do the neighbors heat with?


They heat with oil.


No wonder they are so grumpy heating with oil....Its obvious they are just extremely jealous of your inexpensive, warm coal heat. Maybe you could offer to show them how to save about 50% of their heating cost a year by heating with coal. That should make them friendly toward you!
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Re: Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

PostBy: SMITTY On: Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:24 pm

I've got a JIMMY sitting here all dismantled - I would gladly make the trip down there FOR FREE and leave it in their parking spot, just because I HATE *censored* like that!! It has no wheels ... or axles for that matter, so moving it again would be a problem without dragging it ... :D This could be a good thing. In this communist state you'd be fined for having an inoperable vehicle in the road ... but I digress.

People like those are exactly what is wrong with society today - me, me, me ... I, I, I, ... and the hell with everyone else. :mad: Sounds exactly like the city of Worcester ... except everyone would be on the *censored*'s side!! What your going through is what I went through at EVERY place I lived, up until 11 years ago. It's VERY difficult to restrain yourself from doing illegal things, or escalating the situation to deadly consequences - people get shot for less than this every day. If you end up in jail, he wins. If he ends up in jail, now you've got to watch your back & your personal property (vandalism), and that will wear on your soul after a while. Usually *censored* like this have friends of equally *censored*-ish caliber. Got to think first, and remain calm at all times.

The best course of action is to ignore the pricks. Put on a BIG smile and shout HELLO! whenever they're outside. Act like you couldn't give two shits about anything they do. They'll be furious! I've been through this sort of behavior enough times to have the psychology down to a science.

When they ask you to keep your kid quiet, buy him a drum kit ... and put a clown horn on his bicycle. ;)

Here;s the Jimmy if your interested!

Image
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Re: Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:35 pm

Or here's a thought.

Each month host a pizza and beer night. Cost of admission is 50 or 100 lbs of coal. Send the wife to the mother's house. We all come over to socialize and your bin get filled plus we can "talk" to the neighbor through the walls or outside as we park by the house.................



Rick
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Re: Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

PostBy: SMITTY On: Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:40 pm

Excellent idea Rick .... :yes: :shifty: :angel:
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Re: Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

PostBy: DieselBob On: Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:46 pm

Rick 386 wrote:I wouldn't bother with another vehicle. I would buy a small trailer. Stack some barrels of coal or ash on it.

As long as it is properly licensed, it should be able to sit on the street. Something along the lines of those little 4'x6' TSC trailers.


Truck should be able to chute over top of it and if any spills, it stys on the trailer. Also keeping some on the trailer as a back up plan has its merits.




Rick

Now that's a good idea. Cheap and easy and not a damn thing the AH can do about it as long as it has a current tag.
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Re: Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

PostBy: ShawninNY On: Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:31 am

I like Smitty's Guidance here!its obvious this guy is miserable , Be cool ! don't let them see you affected by there dickeshness, keep smiling ! So far the coal guys have been cool and dealt with it, let them continue dealing with the neighbor let them know what to expect , maybe leave a note on their car the day before with perhaps a few hour window for the del. whenever they are in the yard (hopefully with guests)I would load small loads of wet coal in stove often . Smoldering Cardboard smells horrendous too ! Hopefully you have a hand fired unit! Welcome to the forum . Shawn
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Re: Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:53 am

You guys are all Pit Bulls! Way to circle the wagons! It's like a meat packer wandering into a PETA convention! :D How dare that ne'er do well get in the way of an innocent coal burners vital delivery! I've got some pitch forks and torches. Let's set a night and time! Hmmmm,.....coal tar and feathers seems appropriate too! :lol:
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Re: Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

PostBy: DePippo79 On: Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:28 am

I wouldn't feel bad about the guy's sleeping patterns. I've worked 1st, 2nd, 3rd, split shifts, different days off, etc. 12-16 hours at a time, for the last 15 years. No one ever gave me any sympathy. I use to get pissed off at the landscapers and thier leaf blowers ( I know where I would like to shove one of those things) when the wife and I were renting a condo. My three and five year old can be noisy as a locomotive in the 8th notch and I can still sleep like a baby. You learn to deal with it. Any way good luck with your situation. Matt
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Re: Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

PostBy: Wanna Bee On: Fri Feb 21, 2014 3:35 am

Is there any chance that you or your wife could get handicap parking plates? Stubbed toe, arthritic knee, something. Then you need to speak with the township and tell them you need a handicap parking place designated in front of your house. Blue curb and a PD sign and whamo no more *censored* neighbors to deal with. The township won't even bat an eyelash due to fear of a lawsuit.

Me I'd, we'll lets not go there. but an f350 can pull jeeps out of the mud... It sure as *censored* could drag that thing to the other side of town one rainy evening.
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Re: Problem with coal delivery and neighbors

PostBy: MarkG On: Fri Feb 21, 2014 8:24 am

dcrane wrote:
BigFoot wrote:put a gate in your fence and a sign saying don't block the drive way !!!!


I dont think they are blocking the driveway but rather the front yard where the coal truck need to access the coal bin, I like the idea of buying a permanent piece of shyt vehicle and squatting (Smitty's got 6 or 7 kickin' around im sure :lol: )

I will say this... Its pretty clear things are past the point of repair and the neighborhood joins you in this distaste, harassment, ill will, purposeful efforts to upset the harmony of the neighborhood, etc?
It cost money.... but as sure as im sitting here a good attorney can make anyone's life a living hell (right wrong or indifferent an attorney could start slinging things that would upset their world to such a degree they WOULD move their car swiftly!) He can start with the least invasive letter simply explaining his intentions to file suet... he will say once this suet begins it will not end until trial! he can recommend trying to communicate and be understanding of someones life, liberty, persuet of happiness, right to access heat, and a million other things i dont know because im not an attorney! If they were smart people they would remedy the situation or the civil suet starts and with every motion, deposition, court appearance, they will wish they moved their car because that attorney will suing them for assets including the house they live in and his fee's in the end (go ahead and laugh... but good attorneys can do serious damage to people if they wanted to and the real beauty is....they do it legally toothy )


Yes, all of the other neighbors have a mutual hatred for these people, but they believe that everyone loves them. Narcissistic to say the least. I'm hoping it doesn't lead to a civil suit, but if it reaches that point, I will pursue it.
MarkG
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Wagner
Coal Size/Type: Rice