Fine Tuning The Burn....??

Re: Fine Tuning The Burn....??

PostBy: ShawninNY On: Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:00 am

Awesome , Crow! Thanks Lee , My Waterford stove has .06 Wc embossed on fire fence and in original paperwork
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Re: Fine Tuning The Burn....??

PostBy: Crow Horse On: Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:15 am

Thanks.... At this juncture, I don't have any plans to build a hopper. It's working well as is and with some tweaking maybe it'll work even better.

Been able to get up my driveway (just barely) in 4wd. Ice is the issue. Gotta pick a good line and hope for the best...
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Golden Flame
Coal Size/Type: chestnut
Other Heating: kero

Re: Fine Tuning The Burn....??

PostBy: titleist1 On: Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:27 am

In addition to your hand winch, it sounds like ya might need to start carrying a bucket or two of those coal ashes in the back of the 4wd too.

You'll need to talk to Freetown Fred about stopping by with the 8N to clear that out. Of course you will need to prepare yourself since he cant promise an arrival time and this is not something to be surprised by in the middle of the night...... :lol: :P

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Re: Fine Tuning The Burn....??

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:28 am

Coal ash is great anti skid material,.....and,....you've already paid for it! :lol:
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
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Re: Fine Tuning The Burn....??

PostBy: Crow Horse On: Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:50 am

I use coal ash to treat the "driveway" when conditions require it. I also use spent blast media (Black Beauty) on the lower portions. Freeze/thaw cycles complicate the issue. I often refer to the driveway as my personal bobsled or luge run. One item I carry that has worked surprisingly well is 12" x 36" strips of artificial turf I get from work. A combination of fresh deep snow and an ice base makes ascending it nearly impossible and descending it treacherous. Twice while descending it I managed to do a 180 and slide backwards down it. Definitely not fun. On the plus side, it keeps the bad guys away. The signs might be a deterrent as well.....
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Golden Flame
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Re: Fine Tuning The Burn....??

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:52 am

Coal mines?!! . toothy
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Re: Fine Tuning The Burn....??

PostBy: Crow Horse On: Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:58 am

Carbon12 wrote:Coal mines?!! . toothy


Now that is funny! Well done!!!
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Golden Flame
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Re: Fine Tuning The Burn....??

PostBy: rberq On: Sat Feb 22, 2014 11:44 am

Crow Horse wrote:Wouldn't closing the damper cause CO issues?

When my stove is burning hot, closing the manual damper too much causes fumes in the room. I have stopped using it, and stick with the barometric damper.

Now that you have the air inlets tightened up, you may not need to rely as much (or at all) on the MPD to control the burn. The MPD is kind of a crude control, in that it does not automatically and instantly adjust to changes in temperature and wind like a baro does.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine 1300
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Re: Fine Tuning The Burn....??

PostBy: dlj On: Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:18 pm

How much draft will mandate how closed you can run the MPD. I have good draft and run frequently with the damper completely closed. If you haven't the experience to know how your system runs then using the Dwyer is essential. My stove runs perfectly stable with the MPD. I have no need for a baro. Each installation is unique.

dj
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vermont Castings Resolute
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Re: Fine Tuning The Burn....??

PostBy: Crow Horse On: Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:21 pm

rberq wrote:
Crow Horse wrote:Wouldn't closing the damper cause CO issues?


Now that you have the air inlets tightened up, you may not need to rely as much (or at all) on the MPD to control the burn. The MPD is kind of a crude control, in that it does not automatically and instantly adjust to changes in temperature and wind like a baro does.


I suppose it's like comparing a carb (remember them?) to fuel injection......
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Golden Flame
Coal Size/Type: chestnut
Other Heating: kero

Re: Fine Tuning The Burn....??

PostBy: dlj On: Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:29 pm

Crow Horse wrote:
I suppose it's like comparing a carb (remember them?) to fuel injection......


Naw - it' s more like the perpetual motion machine - the debate goes on and on and on..... There are proponents of both and few of us that realize it just depends upon your set-up. Some stoves and chimneys do great with a baro, some do great with a MPD, some might do best with both in place...

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Re: Fine Tuning The Burn....??

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sat Feb 22, 2014 8:59 pm

CH, I'll swap ya sign for sign --seems like they both work well :clap: toothy
Crow Horse wrote:
Carbon12 wrote:Coal mines?!! . toothy


Now that is funny! Well done!!!
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Re: Fine Tuning The Burn....??

PostBy: Crow Horse On: Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:13 pm

I really like that!
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Re: Fine Tuning The Burn....??

PostBy: Crow Horse On: Sat Feb 22, 2014 9:19 pm

And the coup de gras.........

I realize that this has strayed way off topic, but it's so warm in the house, I'm delirious....
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Golden Flame
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Re: Fine Tuning The Burn....??

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Sat Feb 22, 2014 10:52 pm

Nice job on the Golden Flame and stickin' with it. Many try to run combo stoves and many fail burning coal but it looks like you got a handle on things and some common sense. Those yard signs make great horse spikes! :lol:
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