Call for Glenwood back pipe project

Call for Glenwood back pipe project

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:22 am

This is a shout out to anyone missing the back pipe (indirect draft type) from a Glenwood Modern Oak 118. Or, from any other Glenwood Oak parlor stove that uses an oval shaped 6 inch back pipe.

Vance (blackrock) is generously offering to use his original 118 back pipe castings to have duplicates cast up.

Unlike the Modern Oak 112, 114, 116, which use a 5 inch back pipe, the 118 uses a 6 inch pipe. However, some of the other Glenwood Oaks may use the same pipe size castings. The difference may just be the vertical length of the cast iron baffle inside the back pipe ???

One other aspect of this project. Member PJT is trying to work out the details of using these to put a back pipe on a 116 stove. It might be possible to use 6 inch back pipe on those smaller pipe Oaks by installing a 5x6 pipe reducer between the stove barrel collar and the back pipe.

Vance is working on getting a price quote. Anyone interested should pm Vance now , so that he can know how many sets to get a quote for. Ordering in volume could bring the price down.

And, since I'm sure he'd like to get his stove back together as soon as possible, this may be a one-time shot at getting the proper parts for a back pipe, so don't let the opportunity pass.

Updates to follow.

Paul
Sunny Boy
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Call for Glenwood back pipe project

PostBy: KingCoal On: Sun Feb 23, 2014 9:57 am

here's another wrinkle.

is it known if the pipe and pieces from the M.O. 118 would work to replace the back pipe on a G.W. Oak 40 that had a missing pipe ?
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Re: Call for Glenwood back pipe project

PostBy: dhansen On: Sun Feb 23, 2014 10:05 am

I know there is someone here in Maine that is/was looking for a 116 back pipe. I'd be happy to offer mine as a pattern if anyone is interested. (Once we're done with the stove for the season, of course).
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Stove/Furnace Make: Glenwood No.6 and No.116

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Re: Call for Glenwood back pipe project

PostBy: McGiever On: Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:17 am

Any help with a link to *blackrocks* info?

I get a gizillion hits typing in black rocks in the search. :cry:
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: Call for Glenwood back pipe project

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:27 am

Mac,

Lets see if this link works for ya.


http://nepacrossroads.com/member/blackrock/

Paul

Edit, clicking on it worked to get to backrock's info.
P.
Sunny Boy
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Call for Glenwood back pipe project

PostBy: McGiever On: Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:29 am

:) Thanks Paul
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: Call for Glenwood back pipe project

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:36 am

KingCoal wrote:here's another wrinkle.

is it known if the pipe and pieces from the M.O. 118 would work to replace the back pipe on a G.W. Oak 40 that had a missing pipe ?



Is the 40 back pipe a 6 inch oval pipe ? I

f so, then the new pipe length and where the collar holes go will need to be cut in a new piece of 6 inch single wall stove pipe.

These could "possibly" be added to a stove that was never designed for a back pipe, but has a 6 inch collar on the back, by making a clean-out cover to close off the bottom of the new piece of stove pipe.

The reason I say "possibly" is because that would only work with a stove that has a strong enough draft to handle the extra flue gas travel through two 90 and one 180 degree bends added, plus the drop in flue gas temp.

In other words, back pipes should not be used with a "whimpy" draft ! :D

Paul
Last edited by Sunny Boy on Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:38 am, edited 3 times in total.
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Call for Glenwood back pipe project

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Sun Feb 23, 2014 11:37 am

McGiever wrote::) Thanks Paul


Sure thing Mac.

Paul
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Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Call for Glenwood back pipe project

PostBy: blackrock On: Sun Feb 23, 2014 5:44 pm

That blackrock guy is kinda of a nut case. I hear he flipped his bike off in a snow bank showing off for the snow bunnies. :shock: 42 years old trying to re kindle my youth!! Why does it hurt so much more now??? But seriously my coal burnin brothers, I'll get on that backpipe casting project actually right now! I'll get some pics off to Tomahawk and see if they can give us a rough quote. Should I get a quote on everything in there that's cast?

Vance
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Re: Call for Glenwood back pipe project

PostBy: PJT On: Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:22 pm

blackrock wrote:I'll get some pics off to Tomahawk and see if they can give us a rough quote. Should I get a quote on everything in there that's cast?

Vance


Yes please.
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Baseburners & Antiques: Magee Royal Oak; Glenwood Modern Oak 116
Other Heating: propane

Re: Call for Glenwood back pipe project

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:13 pm

blackrock wrote:That blackrock guy is kinda of a nut case. I hear he flipped his bike off in a snow bank showing off for the snow bunnies. :shock: 42 years old trying to re kindle my youth!! Why does it hurt so much more now??? But seriously my coal burnin brothers, I'll get on that backpipe casting project actually right now! I'll get some pics off to Tomahawk and see if they can give us a rough quote. Should I get a quote on everything in there that's cast?

Vance



Vance,
Ouch - hope your ok and didn't land where there was any of that yellow snow.

Yes, please for me to. That's the pipe oval top cap, the pipe baffle plate and the rectangular damper that fits in it, plus the damper handle rod. And, I'll need the front and rear pipe collars.

Paul
Sunny Boy
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Call for Glenwood back pipe project

PostBy: PJT On: Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:27 pm

Yes please BR everything thats cast inside and out and all collars....the collar that attaches to the stove body and the one that attaches to the back oboe (I think they mate together?)
PJT
 
Baseburners & Antiques: Magee Royal Oak; Glenwood Modern Oak 116
Other Heating: propane

Re: Call for Glenwood back pipe project

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:10 am

For anyone interested, I checked the Glenwood info that Chad ( vfw3439) so generously posted here (thank you, once again Chad!). The Holy Grail of Glenwood Heater Documents

The Glenwood Oak and the Glenwood Hickory were available with the optional back pipe (indirect stoves). In the pictures it looks like the same arrangement as the back pipe on the Glenwood Modern Oaks.

If anyone has a Glenwood Oak, or a hickory , especially if it has the cast iron base support (cup) attached to the stove, and if it uses 6 inch stove pipe, these cast parts from the Modern Oak 118 back pipe project, can likely be used to make up a back pipe for those stoves too, while giving the look of the originals.

Also, . . since 6 inch stove pipe is such a common size for many of these Oaks, it's may be possible to adapt them to non-Glenwood Oaks. Maybe someone can check theirs and post what they find ?

Paul
Sunny Boy
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Call for Glenwood back pipe project

PostBy: vfw3439 On: Mon Feb 24, 2014 11:29 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:For anyone interested, I checked the Glenwood info that Chad ( vfw3439) so generously posted here (thank you, once again Chad!). The Holy Grail of Glenwood Heater Documents

The Glenwood Oak and the Glenwood Hickory were available with the optional back pipe (indirect stoves). In the pictures it looks like the same arrangement as the back pipe on the Glenwood Modern Oaks.

If anyone has a Glenwood Oak, or a hickory , especially if it has the cast iron base support (cup) attached to the stove, and if it uses 6 inch stove pipe, these cast parts from the Modern Oak 118 back pipe project, can likely be used to make up a back pipe for those stoves too, while giving the look of the originals.

Also, . . since 6 inch stove pipe is such a common size for many of these Oaks, it's may be possible to adapt them to non-Glenwood Oaks. Maybe someone can check theirs and post what they find ?

Paul

You are very welcome! I hope to have more INTEL on Glenwoods soon.
vfw3439
 
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Re: Call for Glenwood back pipe project

PostBy: blackrock On: Tue Feb 25, 2014 8:00 pm

I got the back pipe apart and it's all in good shape. It's complete with no cracks etc. Although, the very bottom of the big flat cast divider is a little warped. Is that a problem? Can I straighten it out with a little heat and some finesse? Or is that a no no? What do you guys think??

Vance
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