Calling All Antique Stove Experts
- Pancho
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Whatcha know about the Peninsular Stove Co. from the midwest?.
Greg put me on to a stove here locally that is an Emerald Peninsular No. 73 but I can't find ANY information on it and can only find a few GOOGLE pics.
I'm all ears fellas.
Thanks
Greg put me on to a stove here locally that is an Emerald Peninsular No. 73 but I can't find ANY information on it and can only find a few GOOGLE pics.
I'm all ears fellas.
Thanks
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If Greg put you on to it then that is about all I would need to know to seriously consider it or flat out BUY IT!
Hopefully wsherrick will be by soon and he should know something about it. He is after all the resident expert!
Hopefully wsherrick will be by soon and he should know something about it. He is after all the resident expert!
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About halfway down this page is some info: http://archive.org/stream/PeninsularStovesAndRang ... 1_djvu.txt
- Pancho
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Being I am a newb and he's off on business, I am just poking around to see what I can find. When he comes back I'm sure he'll fill in the info gaps.ONEDOLLAR wrote:If Greg put you on to it then that is about all I would need to know to seriously consider it or flat out BUY IT!
Hopefully wsherrick will be by soon and he should know something about it. He is after all the resident expert!
- Pancho
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Thanks!.SWPaDon wrote:About halfway down this page is some info: http://archive.org/stream/PeninsularStovesAndRang ... 1_djvu.txt
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Peninsular Stove Co was defiantly one of the major players back in the day, with Glenwood, Crawford, Beckwith, etc.). The Peninsular stoves I see always seem to be kitchen cook stoves & their versions of an "Oak" coal stove. (fairly common, fairly cheap, built for the commoners like us ) .... BUT.... they did have some higher end stuff like the Empire Base Burner w/dbl heater and just below that is the the Emerald Base Burner (we call that a Mica type baseburner). restoration of these type of stoves is very time consuming and arduous at best (as well as expensive due to all the nickle & mica). The good news is that this model of Peninsular command the highest value as well as the highest function, with Mica stoves there is as large a buyer pool (like us) who wants them for function as there is a buyer pool who wants them for decoration (it makes them a pretty desirable stove). Ive seen some Emeralds totally restored retailing in the $3-$4k range, the Empire would add about $1k to that.
Just a few comments to get the taste buds flowing Im sure William will add more upon his return.
Edit: I should mention that with this style stove in particular, it is very important to see it in person for inspection, 98% of folks call them restored when they simply have a coat of polish or paint and a clean up. also... the risks of cracked castings is very great! You need to remove all parts (doors, grates, trim rings, etc.) and get on your hands and knees with a good flashlight to really inspect it (base pan, liner, mounting/bolting tabs, etc.) These stoves can be worth very little OR very much depending on condition (from $200 - $5000 depending on these variables and if its truly a professionally restored stove).
Just a few comments to get the taste buds flowing Im sure William will add more upon his return.
Edit: I should mention that with this style stove in particular, it is very important to see it in person for inspection, 98% of folks call them restored when they simply have a coat of polish or paint and a clean up. also... the risks of cracked castings is very great! You need to remove all parts (doors, grates, trim rings, etc.) and get on your hands and knees with a good flashlight to really inspect it (base pan, liner, mounting/bolting tabs, etc.) These stoves can be worth very little OR very much depending on condition (from $200 - $5000 depending on these variables and if its truly a professionally restored stove).
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Thanks for the input.dcrane wrote:Peninsular Stove Co was defiantly one of the major players back in the day, with Glenwood, Crawford, Beckwith, etc.). The Peninsular stoves I see always seem to be kitchen cook stoves & their versions of an "Oak" coal stove. (fairly common, fairly cheap, built for the commoners like us ) .... BUT.... they did have some higher end stuff like the Empire Base Burner w/dbl heater and just below that is the the Emerald Base Burner (we call that a Mica type baseburner). restoration of these type of stoves is very time consuming and arduous at best (as well as expensive due to all the nickle & mica). The good news is that this model of Peninsular command the highest value as well as the highest function, with Mica stoves there is as large a buyer pool (like us) who wants them for function as there is a buyer pool who wants them for decoration (it makes them a pretty desirable stove). Ive seen some Emeralds totally restored retailing in the $3-$4k range, the Empire would add about $1k to that.
Just a few comments to get the taste buds flowing Im sure William will add more upon his return.
Edit: I should mention that with this style stove in particular, it is very important to see it in person for inspection, 98% of folks call them restored when they simply have a coat of polish or paint and a clean up. also... the risks of cracked castings is very great! You need to remove all parts (doors, grates, trim rings, etc.) and get on your hands and knees with a good flashlight to really inspect it (base pan, liner, mounting/bolting tabs, etc.) These stoves can be worth very little OR very much depending on condition (from $200 - $5000 depending on these variables and if its truly a professionally restored stove).
At this stage of the game I am requesting pictures and then, if I don't see anything super scary, I'll pay it a visit and climb all over it.
It is not restored. It would need a good goin' through. Right now I am waiting for pics of the shakers and if they look good I'll request a visit.
Thanks again for the information.
- Pancho
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Dumb question......these old antique stoves, the black portions, was that just a stove paint or is that a ceramic coating/porcelain coating?.
- Pancho
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This is good.nortcan wrote:Usually they got nickeled specific parts (not chromed but nickeled) and black painted.
I just had our plater stop in to work....he said they do nickel plating. The higher the phosphate the higher the cost but he said he'd be able to work with me on a few stove pcs (if I get this thing).
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This catalog is missing page 30 but page 29 has all the info on the emerald. Enjoy the attachment.
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CMDR, I downloaded this PDF twice and both times it said the file was damaged and would not open.vfw3439 wrote:This catalog is missing page 30 but page 29 has all the info on the emerald. Enjoy the attachment.
Randy
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Try this one.Photog200 wrote:CMDR, I downloaded this PDF twice and both times it said the file was damaged and would not open.vfw3439 wrote:This catalog is missing page 30 but page 29 has all the info on the emerald. Enjoy the attachment.
Randy
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- Pancho
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That one works. THANKS!!. I cannot read the text but I did see it is a BASE BURNER (sorry for the coal newb confusion).vfw3439 wrote:
Try this one.
I know it's asking a lot but is there anyone that knows what kind of BTU output one of these has?.