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Well, I was wondering if that question would come up. Here are the measurements, it's close.
Don't forget these are just barrel surface areas.
The back pipe on the Stewart is 36x6.
Crawford 40
Grate = 11 inch diameter.
Barrel = 28 high X 52 circumference (barrel is oval) for a barrel surface area of 10.11 sq ft.
Fire pot = 11x10&1/2 to the bottom of the load door (998 cu in).
PP Stewart 14
Grate = 9&1/2 diameter.
Barrel = 36 high X 44 circumference, for a barrel surface area of 11 sq ft.
Fire pot = 9&1/2 X 13&1/2 to the bottom of the load door (956 cu in).
The C40 has a slightly larger pot and is a "full" base heater. The Stewart does not have gas flow beneath the ash pan, just down the sides...like a Glenwood 109, 111. It also has a far smaller load door than the Crawford. However, the Stewart occupies slightly less floor space.
BTW....the Stewart does not appeal to the Lady of the house...uh oh!
Don't forget these are just barrel surface areas.
The back pipe on the Stewart is 36x6.
Crawford 40
Grate = 11 inch diameter.
Barrel = 28 high X 52 circumference (barrel is oval) for a barrel surface area of 10.11 sq ft.
Fire pot = 11x10&1/2 to the bottom of the load door (998 cu in).
PP Stewart 14
Grate = 9&1/2 diameter.
Barrel = 36 high X 44 circumference, for a barrel surface area of 11 sq ft.
Fire pot = 9&1/2 X 13&1/2 to the bottom of the load door (956 cu in).
The C40 has a slightly larger pot and is a "full" base heater. The Stewart does not have gas flow beneath the ash pan, just down the sides...like a Glenwood 109, 111. It also has a far smaller load door than the Crawford. However, the Stewart occupies slightly less floor space.
BTW....the Stewart does not appeal to the Lady of the house...uh oh!
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I know how you feel Scott. I'm in the same boat. My other 1/2 thinks the Glenwood is too "masculine" looking. She's been biting her tongue since the installation.scalabro wrote:Well, I was wondering if that question would come up. Here are the measurements, it's close.
Don't forget these are just barrel surface areas.
The back pipe on the Stewart is 36x6.
Crawford 40
Grate = 11 inch diameter.
Barrel = 28 high X 52 circumference (barrel is oval) for a barrel surface area of 10.11 sq ft.
Fire pot = 11x10&1/2 to the bottom of the load door (998 cu in).
PP Stewart 14
Grate = 9&1/2 diameter.
Barrel = 36 high X 44 circumference, for a barrel surface area of 11 sq ft.
Fire pot = 9&1/2 X 13&1/2 to the bottom of the load door (956 cu in).
The C40 has a slightly larger pot and is a "full" base heater. The Stewart does not have gas flow beneath the ash pan, just down the sides...like a Glenwood 109, 111. It also has a far smaller load door than the Crawford. However, the Stewart occupies slightly less floor space.
BTW....the Stewart does not appeal to the Lady of the house...uh oh!
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Guys.
Take it from an old dog. Hang some lacy "whatever" kinda stuff on the stove in the off season. The Ladies will see it and accept it as part of their domain. Much like they do with those very large, folding fans, or dried flower arrangements, that they use to hide the fireplace until it gets cold again and they are willing to concede that it needs to go back to being a "guys stove" just so they can be warm again ! The key to coal marital bliss is make the stove "foo-foo pretty" in the off season and warm in the cold season !
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Take it from an old dog. Hang some lacy "whatever" kinda stuff on the stove in the off season. The Ladies will see it and accept it as part of their domain. Much like they do with those very large, folding fans, or dried flower arrangements, that they use to hide the fireplace until it gets cold again and they are willing to concede that it needs to go back to being a "guys stove" just so they can be warm again ! The key to coal marital bliss is make the stove "foo-foo pretty" in the off season and warm in the cold season !
Paul
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I think it's the "onion" on top of the finial
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Can't remember exactly where I saw it, but that "onion" thing reminds me of some cartoon caricature from a kids TV show.
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The onion guy on "Veggie Tales"Sunny Boy wrote:Can't remember exactly where I saw it, but that "onion" thing reminds me of some cartoon caricature from a kids TV show.
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Stress!!!!!
The back pipe is black, the iron parts are a beautiful grey color Skip mixed up, (except for the top castings which still need blasting & paint, the BB butterfly is getting welded and I have yet to get the fire pot coated
Now to go out and get hardware.
Hopefully by NYE .....
The back pipe is black, the iron parts are a beautiful grey color Skip mixed up, (except for the top castings which still need blasting & paint, the BB butterfly is getting welded and I have yet to get the fire pot coated
Now to go out and get hardware.
Hopefully by NYE .....
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Forget the polish! Heck, forget the paint and coatings! Fire it up!!!tcalo wrote:Forget the paint, polish that beauty!
Just kidding Scott. You're doing a great job, and Cindy will keep you guys warm this winter. December is here. You got the end of the month to worry about. Guts to get in that mode now. (I'm not one to talk).
Bye the way Scott, will you be putting a magazine in that Stewart? Looks like a perfect candidate with that shot-gun barrel. Maybe we already discussed this a few pages back.
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This made me curious about the Chubby which measures in at about 12 sq ft. I guess short and fat is deceiving. No backpipe but I have 3 ft of exhaust pipe with fins. Firepot around 740 cu in so the tall boys are dominating there. The fat nature of the beast, however, allows for substantial coning.scalabro wrote:Well, I was wondering if that question would come up. Here are the measurements, it's close.
Don't forget these are just barrel surface areas.
The back pipe on the Stewart is 36x6.
Crawford 40
Grate = 11 inch diameter.
Barrel = 28 high X 52 circumference (barrel is oval) for a barrel surface area of 10.11 sq ft.
Fire pot = 11x10&1/2 to the bottom of the load door (998 cu in).
PP Stewart 14
Grate = 9&1/2 diameter.
Barrel = 36 high X 44 circumference, for a barrel surface area of 11 sq ft.
Fire pot = 9&1/2 X 13&1/2 to the bottom of the load door (956 cu in).
The C40 has a slightly larger pot and is a "full" base heater. The Stewart does not have gas flow beneath the ash pan, just down the sides...like a Glenwood 109, 111. It also has a far smaller load door than the Crawford. However, the Stewart occupies slightly less floor space.
BTW....the Stewart does not appeal to the Lady of the house...uh oh!
The heat transfer to the room is complicated. For the Chubby most of that occurs on about 50% of the barrel surface that is hottest. For the tall boys I think the hot surface is much smaller but then there is lots of transfer over a larger cooler surface area. Don't get me started about efficiency which is pretty much impossible to calculate. I think a sensibly run stove with cool exhaust is around 90%.
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Oh boy this has the potential to get "heated" real quick. Might need to move this thread to FSC......lobsterman wrote:Don't get me started about efficiency which is pretty much impossible to calculate. I think a sensibly run stove with cool exhaust is around 90%.
Though I will always refer and bow to Lobsterman and his number crunching ability.