Just got a new Channing 3 to replace pellets

Just got a new Channing 3 to replace pellets

PostBy: Robhd511 On: Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:17 pm

Hello I'm new to coal! Been burning for a week now and my house has never been warmer ! I replace a st.croix Prescott pellet stove and there is just no way to describe the difference in the heat!
I'm burning Blaschak anthracite rice. I'm just wondering what I can expect for coal consumption with this stove. I'm running the stock stoker controller 1-5 setting with the room fan rheostat, there is nothing to control the draft fan it just runs. I direct vented it with a power vent. Just curious to hear form others who have this stove! Thanks and stay warm!! Rob
Robhd511
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska Channing 3
Coal Size/Type: Rice coal Anthracite
Other Heating: A cold wells McLain oil boiler

Re: Just got a new Channing 3 to replace pellets

PostBy: SWPaDon On: Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:25 pm

Robhd511 wrote:Hello I'm new to coal! Been burning for a week now and my house has never been warmer ! I replace a st.croix Prescott pellet stove and there is just no way to describe the difference in the heat!
I'm burning Blaschak anthracite rice. I'm just wondering what I can expect for coal consumption with this stove. I'm running the stock stoker controller 1-5 setting with the room fan rheostat, there is nothing to control the draft fan it just runs. I direct vented it with a power vent. Just curious to hear form others who have this stove! Thanks and stay warm!! Rob

Welcome to the forum. Lots of help and info available here, but you'll need to give more info yourself. Where do you live, and what square footage are you trying to heat. How's the insulation in your house? I don't burn anthracite or have a channing, but others in here do.
SWPaDon
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1600M
Coal Size/Type: Bituminous. Labeled as 'Big Vein', about the size of acorns. Makes a lot of ash, but heats well and lasts longer than my previous coal.

Re: Just got a new Channing 3 to replace pellets

PostBy: Robhd511 On: Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:32 pm

Ok my bad, I live in massachusetts, my house was built in 1850 and not very tight, it's 1700 sq ft I have "blown-in" in the attic and foam board behind the siding, replacement windows, I'm slowly redoing the home and adding r19 when I can. Two floors also
Robhd511
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska Channing 3
Coal Size/Type: Rice coal Anthracite
Other Heating: A cold wells McLain oil boiler

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Re: Just got a new Channing 3 to replace pellets

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:41 pm

Welcome Robinhd, I don't have your stove but that's ok I have your heat and I love it. By the time spring gets here you won't remember pellets unless you're out of cat litter and that's all you got :lol: I'm from Ma. couldn't carry down there, so I moved, if you know what I mean.
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant 2310, gold marc box, vogelzang pot belly coat rack
Coal Size/Type: Pea, and a little nut
Other Heating: Very cold FHA oil furnace

Re: Just got a new Channing 3 to replace pellets

PostBy: Ed.A On: Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:45 pm

Robhd511 wrote:Ok my bad, I live in massachusetts, my house was built in 1850 and not very tight, it's 1700 sq ft I have "blown-in" in the attic and foam board behind the siding, replacement windows, I'm slowly redoing the home and adding r19 when I can. Two floors also


Welcome,

1700 SQ even at an old age home your Channing III will kill the cold. As you add better insulation your out-put vs input will dramatically increase.
Ed.A
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska Channing III/ '94 Stoker II
Coal Size/Type: Rice

Re: Just got a new Channing 3 to replace pellets

PostBy: titleist1 On: Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:09 pm

Welcome to the forum! I bet you're glad you're not trying to source pellets right now. From what i have been reading and seeing they are is very short supply. Seems to be a very hot topic of panic on the pellet forums.

Regarding the coal usage, a swag would be a ton per month. You'll have a pretty good idea after about two weeks to average it out. One tip, try to let the coal dry out some before loading it into the hopper. Stokers don't like wet coal, damp is OK, but wet coal will sludge up the feed and block airflow through the grates.
titleist1
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: Just got a new Channing 3 to replace pellets

PostBy: Robhd511 On: Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:21 pm

I mis spoke I direct vent with the direct vet fan on the stove
Robhd511
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska Channing 3
Coal Size/Type: Rice coal Anthracite
Other Heating: A cold wells McLain oil boiler

Re: Just got a new Channing 3 to replace pellets

PostBy: titleist1 On: Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:29 pm

Just thought i'd also mention you should have a couple CO monitors. A manometer draft gauge will also be very useful as you optimize your burn to get the most heat from your stoker.
titleist1
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: Just got a new Channing 3 to replace pellets

PostBy: Robhd511 On: Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:36 pm

titleist1 wrote:Just thought i'd also mention you should have a couple CO monitors. A manometer draft gauge will also be very useful as you optimize your burn to get the most heat from your stoker.



I have a co detector in the same room prolly with in 15 feet of the stove. Where do you mont/install the manometer?
Robhd511
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska Channing 3
Coal Size/Type: Rice coal Anthracite
Other Heating: A cold wells McLain oil boiler

Re: Just got a new Channing 3 to replace pellets

PostBy: titleist1 On: Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:38 am

You know we need some pics of your install besides the sideways thing on your avatar!!!! :D

There are a few manometer install pics in these threads below....some with very detailed pics of the fittings used to go through the flue pipe. I'm not familiar enough with the channing to know if there is a bolt that can be removed allowing the manometer tubing to be inserted into the firebox. I know the older harman mag stokers have a allen head bolt on the front between the load door and the ash door for this purpose.

You will need to use something that handles high temps right at the stoker then transition to the plastic tubing that fits onto the manometer ports.

You may want to have a temp gauge on the flue pipe and one on the stoker body to give you an idea of your efficiency too.

Got a manometer - now what

manometer install
titleist1
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

Re: Just got a new Channing 3 to replace pellets

PostBy: dutch On: Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:31 pm

welcome to coal heat!
i picked up a used channing III last summer and started burning it
just after thanksgiving, and it's been burning great since. I am still on my
3rd ton, but picked up another 1.2 ton last weekend and that should
get me thru the season. I have a newer home, similar size, but my location
has me at 1400 ft, and the wind blows a lot and seems to want to suck
the heat right out of the house. we are very happy with the stove, and
i have it tied into my furnace ductwork and we circulate the heat with
the furnace fan.
a ton a month is a great starting point on usage, and maybe more
or less depending on your home and the weather. it has been a very
cold year around here, and i'm smiling every nite when i dump a bag
into the hopper because i'm not burning all of that propane like i did last winter!

my son lives an hour south of me, and he put in a pellet stove, and it is saving
him a lot over oil in his 100+ year old house, he's not as comfortable as we are,
and he has burned more pellets than I have.
dutch
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Alaska Channing III

Re: Just got a new Channing 3 to replace pellets

PostBy: mdrelyea On: Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:54 pm

Robhd511 wrote:I'm just wondering what I can expect for coal consumption with this stove.


What was your consumption of pellets like? We can use that to calculate what your consumption of coal will be.

Mike
mdrelyea
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Alaska 140 Auger
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Russo #2
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Rice/Nut

Re: Just got a new Channing 3 to replace pellets

PostBy: Robhd511 On: Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:04 pm

mdrelyea wrote:
Robhd511 wrote:I'm just wondering what I can expect for coal consumption with this stove.


What was your consumption of pellets like? We can use that to calculate what your consumption of coal will be.

Mike

I was about 4.5 tons a year a little less in warmer winters. I used three tons of pellets this year as of a week ago yesterday I and bought one ton of pellets and saw the Channing sitting there. I have eyed it every time I went in to buy my pellets so the day after I bought my fourth ton of pellets this year I went and bought the Channing and a ton of coal and gave the pellets to my mother! Lol so anyways I went through about 4.5-5 tons of pellets in a season but was not very warm
Robhd511
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska Channing 3
Coal Size/Type: Rice coal Anthracite
Other Heating: A cold wells McLain oil boiler

Re: Just got a new Channing 3 to replace pellets

PostBy: mdrelyea On: Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:21 pm

OK, so using the fuel comparison calculator (at the top of the page) 1 ton of coal is 24 million BTUs and 1 ton of pellets is 16.5 million BTUs. That means 1 ton of pellets = 0.6875 tons of coal. That would mean to keep your house at the same temperature would require 3 to 3.5 tons of coal. If you keep the house a little warmer you'll use more so maybe bump it up a little.
mdrelyea
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Alaska 140 Auger
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Russo #2
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Rice/Nut

Re: Just got a new Channing 3 to replace pellets

PostBy: Robhd511 On: Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:35 pm

Thanks everyone for the great feedback I still can't believe the heat and the how much better coal is! I wish I did this sooner! Playing with the idea of a coal boiler...hmmm...
Robhd511
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Alaska Channing 3
Coal Size/Type: Rice coal Anthracite
Other Heating: A cold wells McLain oil boiler

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