please help me!

Re: please help me!

PostBy: rocky On: Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:31 pm

freetown fred wrote:R, have you loo5050-9335f ed at the HITZER 30-95? How broke up is your house as far as getting heat where you need it?


House is fairly open. I can leave the stove room, walk through the house and end up back in the stove room.

I'm just thinking now that I'm heating this joint with a 24"x20" steel box that weighs about 430 pounds and running at an average temp of 420 degrees. Couldn't I expect the same resultes out of a simular sized box wether heating it with wood or coal?

That being said, knowing now that the 50-93 can be idled down well eases my mind alot. Plus it should have plenty on reserve for even the coldest days.

Like I said, I know I'm just over thinking things.
rocky
 
Other Heating: country brand wood stove

Re: please help me!

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:36 pm

Yup, easy to overthink. Get the stove, hook her up and light her off. The Forum will be happy to teach you how to manage the stove. Get a manometer and 2 or 3 stick on stove thermometers at the same time you get your stove. It'll make dialing her in much easier. :D
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Other Heating: Heat Pump/Forced Hot Air Oil Furnace

Re: please help me!

PostBy: titleist1 On: Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:40 pm

Carbon12 wrote:Get a manometer and 2 or 3 stick on stove thermometers at the same time you get your stove.


plus a couple of CO monitors if you don't already have them....
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman Mag Stoker (old style) one in basement, one in workshop
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Harman Mark III on standby for long power outages
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite; Nut/Anthracite

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Re: please help me!

PostBy: SWPaDon On: Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:41 pm

Don't forget the CO detectors. :) beat ne too it^^^^ lol
SWPaDon
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1600M
Coal Size/Type: Bituminous. Labeled as 'Big Vein', about the size of acorns. Makes a lot of ash, but heats well and lasts longer than my previous coal.

Re: please help me!

PostBy: rocky On: Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:46 pm

Sorry for the choppy replies. By the time I answere one post I see two more. Was not expecting so much help so quick! I do have plenty of storage space for coal. I am using an insulated double wall chimney 14' straight up from top of stove. We heated with an electric furnace prior to wood and there are 4 of us, two female so no amount of hot water would ever be enough!
rocky
 
Other Heating: country brand wood stove

Re: please help me!

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:48 pm

Thanks for covering my back, guys! I meant to mention that. Multiple CO detectors is not optional either. :D
Carbon12
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Other Heating: Heat Pump/Forced Hot Air Oil Furnace

Re: please help me!

PostBy: SWPaDon On: Sun Mar 02, 2014 12:53 pm

rocky wrote:Sorry for the choppy replies. By the time I answere one post I see two more. Was not expecting so much help so quick! I do have plenty of storage space for coal. I am using an insulated double wall chimney 14' straight up from top of stove. We heated with an electric furnace prior to wood and there are 4 of us, two female so no amount of hot water would ever be enough!

Things happen fast around here when someone needs help. I'm still learning, only been burning coal for a few years, so when I see someone new post a question I'll start off the conversation quickly until the experienced Anthracite guys arrive. I have only burned Bituminous. :)

They are the same but different :confused: :)
SWPaDon
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1600M
Coal Size/Type: Bituminous. Labeled as 'Big Vein', about the size of acorns. Makes a lot of ash, but heats well and lasts longer than my previous coal.

Re: please help me!

PostBy: rocky On: Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:03 pm

Thanks guys for bringing me back "again". I'm going to be running my wood stove the rest of the winter but as soon as I can afford it I believe I will go out and get the 50-93 before I have another spell lol.

And don't worry about the co detectors, I have a family to take care of.

Again, thanks
rocky
 
Other Heating: country brand wood stove

Re: please help me!

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:06 pm

HB ,did you think up all those questions :?: :shock: WOW,what an impressive list :!: Are you sure you asked all of the questions ?/ :)
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
Other Heating: Oaktree OWB 600K

Re: please help me!

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:12 pm

R, 30-95 is rated to heat 2000 sq. YES, I'm a firm believer in over-kill but I think with your 1500 basically open house, it's something you might want to check out--I'm heating over 2000 sq with my 50-93--drafty old farm house tightened up as much as you can w/ post & beam--I'm seeing suggestions of reducing fire box size, or idling way down--the reason HITZER designed different size stoves was to accommodate different size houses/needs without going through all that. It's best to run a stove hot then to constantly idle down--it prevents ash build up, less draw needed, etc, etc--just an old farmers thoughts:) WH, RB has them zeroxed next to his computer & YEP I think he covered most all of them thar questions--them thar line tramps are pretty thorough--keeps em alive ;)
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: HITZER 50-93
Coal Size/Type: BLASCHAK Nut/Stove mix

Re: please help me!

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:17 pm

Most of the time i forget what questions to ask,was impressed with his list .
windyhill4.2
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Crane 404 with variable blower
Other Heating: Oaktree OWB 600K

Re: please help me!

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Sun Mar 02, 2014 1:39 pm

Windy,Yes,But Wait!!......Ol' HB was a Complete WeenBag by not asking Rocky if He Had CO Detectors ! ! I sure Clown-Car'd That One Right In The Old Caboose!! Thanx for the CO Coverage,Gang! Rocky,Thanx for your CO Detector Reply! Love That Takin' Care Of That Family Stuff ! Yes,Rocky,The Fine Folks Of The Coal Board Actually Do Care And Haul Out the Help When Asked For!! :up:
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Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Harman 1998 Magnum Stoker
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Re: please help me!

PostBy: oliver power On: Sun Mar 02, 2014 2:15 pm

50-93 or 30-95???? With the stove up in the living quarters, either one will heat your place. If the stove is going in the basement, get the 50-93. They will both idle down nicely. Fan is noisier on the 30-95, as it has one squirrel cage blower fan. Fan noise of 50-93 is quieter, as it has a smaller in diameter, dual squirrel cage fan. You'll want to make sure you tend the 30-95 every 12 hours max. Yes, it may go a little longer, maybe 14 hours, depending on house. You'll want to also tend the 50-93 every 12 hours min. The 50-93 will go out 18+ hours no problem, as it holds more coal. Either way, both stoves should be on a 12 hour tending schedule.
oliver power
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: KEYSTOKER Kaa-2
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93 & 30-95, Vigilant (pre-Vigilant-II)
Baseburners & Antiques: MANY (Mostly when burning wood)
Stove/Furnace Make: HITZER / KEYSTOKER
Stove/Furnace Model: 50-93 & 30-95 , Kaa-2

Re: please help me!

PostBy: Cap On: Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:55 pm

Hey Rocky, if you have good basement access to load coal, install your unit in the basement, go with the larger unit. When you heat the foundation, you will have a much more comfortable home. Besides the hand fired coal stove creates more ash than wood and can be little dusty when shaking and removing ash.

If you decide to go upstairs, go with the small unit.

Always size your heating equipment to work its hardest on the coldest day of the year!
Cap
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Harman SF 250, domestic hot water loop, heat accumulator

Re: please help me!

PostBy: rocky On: Sun Mar 02, 2014 8:26 pm

Can't do a basement install, I ain't got no basement. Single level, stove will be in the living room. I'm a little worried about the dust but the wood can be messy to.
rocky
 
Other Heating: country brand wood stove

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