EPA to make coal ash hazardious waste

Re: EPA to make coal ash hazardious waste

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:28 am

:clap: toothy --I too have serious concerns on those up & coming BM :(
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Re: EPA to make coal ash hazardious waste

PostBy: dlj On: Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:45 am

This legislation is aimed at electric utilities - not at home heat sources. The title of the legislation is: "Hazardous and Solid Waste Management System: Identification and Listing of Special Wastes; Disposal of Coal Combustion Residuals From Electric Utilities".

Check out the EPA website: http://www.epa.gov/epawaste/nonhaz/indu ... /ccr-rule/

Also, it isn't probably not just fly ash - EPA is defining it as CCR's - Coal Combustion Residuals. Here's a quote from the EPA:

"Coal Combustion Residuals, often referred to as coal ash, are currently considered exempt wastes under an amendment to RCRA, the Resource Conservation and Recovery Act. They are residues from the combustion of coal in power plants and captured by pollution control technologies, like scrubbers. Potential environmental concerns from coal ash pertain to pollution from impoundment and landfills leaching into ground water and structural failures of impoundments, like that which occurred at the Tennessee Valley Authority’s plant in Kingston, Tennessee."

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Re: EPA to make coal ash hazardious waste

PostBy: tjnamtiw On: Sun Mar 09, 2014 12:23 pm

Maybe, just maybe, enough people THIS TIME AND THE NEXT will have enough sense to vote for someone who actually knows what they are doing! Perhaps someone who cares about the people and not themselves and realizes that the EPA, IRS, and FDA need to be emasculated! Also, maybe someone who realizes that homeowners banned from burning coal are not going to save the world while a billion other people burn human and animal waste to cook their food and heat their hovels.
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Re: EPA to make coal ash hazardious waste

PostBy: PJT On: Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:08 pm

tjnamtiw wrote:Maybe, just maybe, enough people THIS TIME AND THE NEXT will have enough sense to vote for someone who actually knows what they are doing! Perhaps someone who cares about the people and not themselves and realizes that the EPA, IRS, and FDA need to be emasculated! Also, maybe someone who realizes that homeowners banned from burning coal are not going to save the world while a billion other people burn human and animal waste to cook their food and heat their hovels.



Not a chance TJ.....people have their noses buried too deeply in their cell phones (and other places) these days...
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Re: EPA to make coal ash hazardious waste

PostBy: tjnamtiw On: Sun Mar 09, 2014 2:12 pm

PJT wrote:
tjnamtiw wrote:Maybe, just maybe, enough people THIS TIME AND THE NEXT will have enough sense to vote for someone who actually knows what they are doing! Perhaps someone who cares about the people and not themselves and realizes that the EPA, IRS, and FDA need to be emasculated! Also, maybe someone who realizes that homeowners banned from burning coal are not going to save the world while a billion other people burn human and animal waste to cook their food and heat their hovels.



Not a chance TJ.....people have their noses buried too deeply in their cell phones (and other places) these days...


:D :D :D
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Re: EPA to make coal ash hazardious waste

PostBy: Vampiro On: Mon Mar 10, 2014 9:56 am

The start of this disaster was caused by the negligence of the Tennessee Valley authority. The TVA was warned about the instability of their ash handling system years ago.

What many individuals fail to realize is that the TVA is an government owned corporation. Ask individuals in the power industry how goc's operate, and they will let you know how horrid they are.

This is why individuals in a free market are far more effective at regulating business than politicians, bureaucracies and the special interests that surround them. A private company would be held responsible for the damage it caused, along with actions of criminal negligence that took place by the TVA for all these years.

The taxpayers are robbed to find the TVA, and are also robbed in order to pay for damages caused by the company. The goc will never fail, and remains continually funded through extortion (taxation).

Many wished to blame the private companies, and made it seem that all power plants operate in this manner. This is utterly false, as privately run power plants have a far better environmental record than the goc's within the generation sector.

Investor capital and consumer support can be pulled from a private company. Lawsuits, fines, imprisonment, etc. can result from negligence. A private company subjected to market forces is not incentivized to engage in such horrid business behavior. They will wind up a failure. A government owned corporation doesn't have to worry about failing, as extortion funds are almost unlimited.

The only problem with private companies arises when they collude, and are protected by politicians, and also for bad behavior. Then it is no longer a free market, as the company is protected from market actions to dissolve it, and it can also acquire funds through subsidies, and capital robbed from taxpayers. BP is a prime example of a protected company, whom should have gone bankrupt after the major oil spill. Yet the politicians protected the company, while making it look like they were the ones to scold and hold the companies feet to the fire. They paid a small fee and taxpayers wound up footing the bill for some of the cleanup also.
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Re: EPA to make coal ash hazardious waste

PostBy: samhill On: Mon Mar 10, 2014 10:45 am

The problem with the TVA & most everything that the Gov. runs is they keep trying to stay instead of get out & sell it off. Political parties come & go & they all have relatives that need jobs but most know little to nothing so they are put in management where they can hide but worse yet make $ making decisions in their own best interest. What most refuse to admit is we have to turn over DC on a regular basis (term limits) but since term limits would have to be approved by both houses we know that isn't going to happen. So then it's up to us the voters & DC knows the best thing to do is keep us fighting amongst ourselves pointing fingers at one another & the beat goes on. :mad: :cry:
At the time of the TVA no private Co. or group of could have taken that on, like most things there was a need for Gov. but there is also a larger need for Gov. to get out.
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Re: EPA to make coal ash hazardious waste

PostBy: BPatrick On: Tue Mar 11, 2014 2:18 pm

If your not a troll then prove it. Having posted that as your first post then to vanish sure raises suspicions and makes it hard to take you seriously. Start posting, try introducing yourself and participate on the board discussions. Prove us wrong as it seems very troll-ey to start off with that controversial of a topic.
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Re: EPA to make coal ash hazardious waste

PostBy: jhenryw49 On: Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:05 pm

I did go back and introduce myself, should have done it first. Sometimes the ADD kicks into high gear and I take off in second, not first. It was a subject of worry and the answers were found, Thank You
Now I will pay attention to the date they mentioned and see what there final decision is. since I do have a coal burning power plant in my city. The coal ash has settled in our drinking water thought the ground water tables.
I want to keep my nightingale stove, and need to update some stuff so with this group I can find the supplies and info I need

Thanks Jack
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Re: EPA to make coal ash hazardious waste

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:10 pm

What city might that be jhw???
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Re: EPA to make coal ash hazardious waste

PostBy: jhenryw49 On: Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:07 pm

The city is Salem, ma on the coast about 18 miles north of Boston.
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Re: EPA to make coal ash hazardious waste

PostBy: freetown fred On: Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:10 pm

Thanx, I did some work there in the early 80's. Cool place to be on All Hallows Evening :)
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Re: EPA to make coal ash hazardious waste

PostBy: ONEDOLLAR On: Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:13 pm

Jhenry
Howdy neighbor!! I'm just a little South of you down in Saugus. Not many of us black rock burners on the North Shore. How goes things in The Witch City?
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Re: EPA to make coal ash hazardious waste

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:31 pm

jhenryw49 wrote:The city is Salem, ma on the coast about 18 miles north of Boston.


Welcome JH.

That's a beautiful area. I've been fortunate to have toured around that area by car and by sailboat.

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Re: EPA to make coal ash hazardious waste

PostBy: jhenryw49 On: Tue Mar 11, 2014 7:39 pm

Hi Saugus, yes not to many burn the rock, it has done wonders in keeping the family warm where do you buy your coal I get mine at agway.
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