Types (?) and Quality of Anthracite

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Types (?) and Quality of Anthracite

PostBy: NYfireman On: Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:24 pm

I've burned coal for eight years, but only found out about NEPA two seasons ago. So, have not gotten coal directly from a mine/breaker in PA as a lot of you guys do. Rather, I've burned pea, nut and stove coal (have three stoves and an old American Standard hand-fired boiler) from Blaschak, Reading, Kimmel and some Centralia (?) bulk from Lake Champlain Coal in Whitehall, NY.

My question has been prompted by getting a pallet of Kimmel stove coal from a local dealer in late February that is some of the worst quality coal I've burned. The past two years their stove coal has been uniformly shiny and fairly light--indicating to me that it doesn't have many impurities--and it burned to a fine white ash. Problems were more fines than other coal, some debris and irregular sizing (fair amount of egg-sized and larger coal.) The first two pallets this year were not quite as high quality, but the last pallet has even more than the usual 5# of fines, most of it is dull and soft, gives off a lot of yellow flame when you load it on hot coal, leaves ash clods, and it smells like the power plant coal (bituminous) that I burned some of out west when the Union Pacific coal train derailed---in other words, it smells like burning rubber.

I should say that their Pea coal has been as good as any I've burned throughout this year.

The Kimmel person I spoke with about the latest stove coal didn't offer much of a reply to my politely asked questions, except to say they mine their own coal (?) and it's only anthracite. Well, if it is, why does it smell like soft coal and unlike any of the other 30+ tons of anthracite I've burned?

Can someone enlighten me?
NYfireman
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: none
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: American Standard Severn
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Surdiac 720
Baseburners & Antiques: Fuller &Warren Matchless 14, Our Glenwood 111, Royal Sterling 30 base burner
Coal Size/Type: Stove, Chestnut, Pea

Re: Types (?) and Quality of Anthracite

PostBy: scalabro On: Fri Mar 07, 2014 7:39 pm

NYfireman wrote:
Can someone enlighten me?


Yes, I've had the same exact issues as you with Kimmels stove coal this year.

Never again.
scalabro
 
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Coal Size/Type: Stove, Anthracite.
Other Heating: Oil fired, forced hot air.

Re: Types (?) and Quality of Anthracite

PostBy: freetown fred On: Fri Mar 07, 2014 8:18 pm

In a perfect world :roll:
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Re: Types (?) and Quality of Anthracite

PostBy: Starting Out On: Mon Mar 10, 2014 4:47 pm

I never herd of Kimmel, but Reading coal is mined 10 mi from Blaschak. Blaschak and Centralia are actually mined with in two miles of each other. That might explain why Blaschak, Reading and Centralia all burn better.
Starting Out
 
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Re: Types (?) and Quality of Anthracite

PostBy: Den034071 On: Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:01 pm

Ny i am 69 an live 30 minutes from all the suppliers you mentioned .Around here the last 40 years Lehigh L C N an Jeddo were always rated number 1 a 2 .Now Lehigh is selling mostly box car loads so give Jeddo Coal company a call .They are in Hazleton Pa. .There coal is white ash an long lasting .Search this forum for comments on there coal .It is a fact when unloading Hazleton coal from a truck it sounds like the old glass mikk bottles milk bottles we got as kids .Go for it jack
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Re: Types (?) and Quality of Anthracite

PostBy: Rob R. On: Tue Mar 11, 2014 12:47 pm

The Kimmel's plant is at the far Western edge of the Southern anthracite field. The coal in that area generally has more volatile content, and as you creep West...it becomes semi-anthracite.

Another thread from a few months back: RR Coal in Lykens PA - Video
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Re: Types (?) and Quality of Anthracite

PostBy: NYfireman On: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:37 pm

Thanks to all of you for the responses, especially Rob R. and Den034071. :) I don't have home Internet and go to the library in town which has high speed, so I'm late replying. I'll try Jeddo next winter if I can find a trucker.
NYfireman
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: none
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: American Standard Severn
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Surdiac 720
Baseburners & Antiques: Fuller &Warren Matchless 14, Our Glenwood 111, Royal Sterling 30 base burner
Coal Size/Type: Stove, Chestnut, Pea

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