What Stove should i buy.

What Stove should i buy.

PostBy: bobdog2o02 On: Sun Mar 09, 2014 6:54 pm

I posted in my introduction that i currently have a worn out US Stove wood burning unit that only has given me three years of service. I burn any free wood i can get but after this brutal winter i have found myself with a barren woodpile, burned 5 cords this year. I plan to continue burning any available wood(and my neighbor with a wooded lot has granted permission to any storm damaged trees) but i would like to find out more about duel fuel stoves. I have a few people telling me they have baker stoves(wood only) and i have a dealer pushing me toward a Saey Hanover. My biggest concern on a duel fuel would be efficiency. Can a coal/wood unit burn wood efficiently and still have enough draft to burn coal? Any thoughts, product suggestion or advice is welcome.

Thanks - Bobdog
bobdog2o02
 
Other Heating: Wood Stove - US stove Magnolia

Re: What Stove should i buy.

PostBy: scalabro On: Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:29 pm

Hi Bob,

Folks here are going to want to know the following to best help you size your stove.

Location
Topography
Age of house
Style of house
Square footage of house
Type of chimney
Height of chimney
Location of chimney
Where will the stove go
What type of stove do you want
What do you want the stove to do, ie supplemental heat or primary heat
What type of heat do you have now

Probably a few more but this is a good start.
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scalabro
 
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford 40, PP Stewart No. 14 in the works.
Coal Size/Type: Stove, Anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired forced hot air

Re: What Stove should i buy.

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:31 pm

I always think a dual fuel wood/coal stove is a bad idea, but if I was being dragged kicking and screaming and forced to buy one it would be the DS EnergyMax 110. A duel fuel stove built by real Amish coal and wood burners has to be better than a dual fuel stove built by a company that knows nothing about coal and a ton about wood.

http://www.champaigncoalandstove.com/it ... .php?id=17
http://woodstoves.net/ds-stoves/coal/ds ... d-coal.htm
http://www.wilsoncoal.com/stoves/ds_sto ... x_110.html

Or perhaps its little brother of sorts, the DS ComfortMax 75.

http://www.wilsoncoal.com/stoves/ds_sto ... max75.html
http://woodstoves.net/ds-stoves/coal/ds ... urnace.htm
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lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (if I ever get it fixed)


Re: What Stove should i buy.

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:35 pm

I get the feeling you are looking for a wood burner first and coal burner second. Don't get me wrong many of us have both and some have a third type (pellets). There are many folks that struggle with multi fuel units burning coal and revisions to their stove is necessary. I am not sure if we have found the perfect dual stove, but many here have found the perfect coal stove! :)
michaelanthony
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant 2310, gold marc box, vogelzang pot belly coat rack
Coal Size/Type: Pea, and a little nut
Other Heating: Very cold FHA oil furnace

Re: What Stove should i buy.

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:45 pm

Welcome to the greatest forum on the 'net for coal advice.

There really is no dual fuel stove that is efficient for either type of fuel you want to burn.

However some do burn wood in their coal stove in the "shoulder" season. That time before and after you need the good heat of coal.

Coal requires air coming up through the coal bed and must be a deep bed. Wood requires air from above.

As was said, a few more details on what you are planning on doing with a coal stove. Were you satisfied with the heat of your old stove ?? Did it heat the entire house ?? How do you heat your hot water ?? What was the original heat source ??

Hand fired stoves are very similar to the traditional wood burner. They do not require electric to work. Only need for electric would be a distribution fan. Stoker stoves require electric to blow air up through grates that get coal forced upon them by another electric motor. And then have a 3rd fan to distribute the heated air.


Ask away for further information.



Rick
Rick 386
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AA 260 heating both sides of twin farmhouse
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL Hyfire II w/ coaltrol in garage
Coal Size/Type: Pea in AA 260, Rice in LL Hyfire II
Other Heating: Gas fired infared at work

Re: What Stove should i buy.

PostBy: bobdog2o02 On: Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:46 pm

Location - Lancaster PA
Topography - On the side of a hill
Age of house - 1950
Style of house - Rancher
Square footage of house - 900 + basement + garage = 2500
Type of chimney - Class A
Height of chimney - 15'
Location of chimney - Basement through first floor exiting roof
Where will the stove go - Basement
What type of stove do you want - Wood with the option of coal
What do you want the stove to do, ie supplemental heat or primary heat - Primary Heat
What type of heat do you have now - Wood
bobdog2o02
 
Other Heating: Wood Stove - US stove Magnolia

Re: What Stove should i buy.

PostBy: scalabro On: Sun Mar 09, 2014 7:53 pm

So, just the wood stove in the basement?

No oil or NG fired furnace?

Baseboard hot water or forced hot air?
scalabro
 
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford 40, PP Stewart No. 14 in the works.
Coal Size/Type: Stove, Anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired forced hot air

Re: What Stove should i buy.

PostBy: bobdog2o02 On: Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:11 pm

i have an oil forced air furnace also. It has only fired twice this winter when i was sick and couldn't make it to the woodpile.
bobdog2o02
 
Other Heating: Wood Stove - US stove Magnolia

Re: What Stove should i buy.

PostBy: oliver power On: Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:13 pm

Heating your 900 square foot house on basement is no problem. How do you plan on getting heat to the garage? Or, did you simply mention the garage, but have no plans of heating it?
oliver power
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: KEYSTOKER Kaa-2
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93 & 30-95, Vigilant (pre-Vigilant-II)
Baseburners & Antiques: MANY (Mostly when burning wood)
Stove/Furnace Make: HITZER / KEYSTOKER
Stove/Furnace Model: 50-93 & 30-95 , Kaa-2

Re: What Stove should i buy.

PostBy: scalabro On: Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:19 pm

I wonder if a Hitzer 82 can occasionally eat cellulose without any damage?
scalabro
 
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford 40, PP Stewart No. 14 in the works.
Coal Size/Type: Stove, Anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired forced hot air

Re: What Stove should i buy.

PostBy: ShawninNY On: Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:28 pm

Nice looking Harmon mark111 on Craigslist in Lancaster what ever stove you use protect the grates with a metal plate or layer of ash when burning wood good luck , welcome to the forum
ShawninNY
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Waterford/penn royal in garage
Stove/Furnace Model: 1994 Erin

Re: What Stove should i buy.

PostBy: McGiever On: Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:43 pm

Sell your firewood and then go buy your coal...we can get you into a good coal stove...combo-stove :no1:

Many like yourself have come here and got a sampling of burning coal and never looked back to days of burning wood again. :)
McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek

Re: What Stove should i buy.

PostBy: scalabro On: Sun Mar 09, 2014 8:56 pm

McGiever wrote:Sell your firewood and then go buy your coal...we can get you into a good coal stove...combo-stove :no1:

Many like yourself have come here and got a sampling of burning coal and never looked back to days of burning wood again. :)



I was to shy to say it :oops:
scalabro
 
Baseburners & Antiques: Crawford 40, PP Stewart No. 14 in the works.
Coal Size/Type: Stove, Anthracite
Other Heating: Oil fired forced hot air

Re: What Stove should i buy.

PostBy: bobdog2o02 On: Sun Mar 09, 2014 9:51 pm

I use the fan on the forced air to circulate warm air and i have a vent tied into the garage. The garage is on the basement level of the home and is attached to the side.

I'm not a hippie but i do like the carbon neutral aspect to wood. I would rather burn coal than oil since coal gives americans jobs,but free environmentally friendly wood is a better idea to me.
bobdog2o02
 
Other Heating: Wood Stove - US stove Magnolia

Re: What Stove should i buy.

PostBy: McGiever On: Sun Mar 09, 2014 10:09 pm

Best see the boys over at "the Hearth"...your thinking is more inline w/ theirs. ;)

Think Wood Gasifier.

We believe there is NO such thing as Free Wood!
McGiever
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AXEMAN-ANDERSON 130 "1959"
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: HARMAN MAGNUM
Hand Fed Coal Stove: RADIANT HOME AIR BLAST
Baseburners & Antiques: OUR GLENWOOD 111 BASEBURNER "1908"
Coal Size/Type: PEA / ANTHRACITE, NUT-STOVE / ANTHRACITE
Other Heating: Ground Source Heat Pump
Stove/Furnace Make: Hydro Heat /Mega Tek