Noisy Grates or Shaker Handle in DS 1500

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Post by MarkV » Wed. Mar. 12, 2014 11:08 pm

I've been meaning to ask this for awhile now.

Something in the shaking mechanism on my DS 1500 squeaks loudly when I shake the grates. It's done this pretty much since I got the stove last year.

Sounds like it's coming from down where the outside shaker handle attaches, but I assume I'm hearing something inside the stove, not outside.

Searched the forum and only found references to squeaky grates. Any DS owners know what might be causing this? And (this may be the dumb question) is there any sort of lubricant you can use that wouldn't smoke and burn off? Thought about powdered graphite or similar dry lube, but don't know how that behaves at high temps.

(Reminds me of my Dad many years ago. While prepping for fall startup, he noticed the firebox door on his Franco 10-175 was squeaking. He was slowing down a bit then, and absentmindedly grabbed his trusty oil can and gave the hinges on both the firebox and ash doors a good squirt.

A week or so later when he fired up, after about 10 minutes, smoke started filling the house. My mom called me in a panic. I ran right over and dang if there wasn't a blue-gray funk hanging in the air. We set up a couple floor fans pointing out windows to clear out the smoke. Dad finally fessed up to the oiling, which m didn't make Mom too happy.)

So I know I don't want to oil anything!

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. Mar. 13, 2014 7:25 am

If you find where the squeak is, or if you just lube every place you think it might be, try this,
http://www.bostik-us.com/sites/default/files/nspu ... uclear.pdf

I use it on exhaust manifolds, head gaskets, and other high heat applications.
It's an anti-seize that also works as a high temperature lubricant - up to 2400 degrees F.

This page has a distributor locator search box in the upper right corner.
http://www.bostik-us.com/market-products/product- ... #regulargr

Paul

 
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Post by michaelanthony » Thu. Mar. 13, 2014 9:32 am

Anywhere along the path from shaker handle to the furthest point moving may have 1 or more small burs from the casting, not uncommon. I have very minor squeaks in my vigilant and the box stove. metal on metal and there are lubricants or ear plugs! :P

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Thu. Mar. 13, 2014 9:45 am

One other thing.

A few times I've had small pieces of unburned coal get past the end grate tooth into a grate bar's axle/pivot area. That forced the grate bar toward the other end of the firebox where it rubbed cast iron on cast iron causing a squeak.

Picked out the piece of coal and the grate bar had plenty of free-play then. No more squeak.

Any chance something like that could have happened in your stove ?

Paul


 
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Post by I'm On Fire » Thu. Mar. 13, 2014 11:27 am

I'm probably the only one not bothered by the noise the grates make when shaking down my stove. It's only about 5-10 minutes a day they squeak.

 
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Post by MarkV » Sun. Mar. 16, 2014 2:26 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:One other thing.

A few times I've had small pieces of unburned coal get past the end grate tooth into a grate bar's axle/pivot area. That forced the grate bar toward the other end of the firebox where it rubbed cast iron on cast iron causing a squeak.

Picked out the piece of coal and the grate bar had plenty of free-play then. No more squeak.

Any chance something like that could have happened in your stove ?

Paul
Paul, I'll check that out in a few weeks when I do my spring cleanout (as well looking for burrs, as suggested by Michael). With the range of coal sizes I got in my Blaschak "nut" this year, that's a real possibility. Thanks for the tip, and for the info on Never-Seez (Nuclear grade).

Buying a can of that stuff won't get me landed on a terrorist watch list I hope. :lol:

 
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Post by Sunny Boy » Sun. Mar. 16, 2014 6:24 pm

MarkV wrote:
Sunny Boy wrote:One other thing.

A few times I've had small pieces of unburned coal get past the end grate tooth into a grate bar's axle/pivot area. That forced the grate bar toward the other end of the firebox where it rubbed cast iron on cast iron causing a squeak.

Picked out the piece of coal and the grate bar had plenty of free-play then. No more squeak.

Any chance something like that could have happened in your stove ?

Paul
Paul, I'll check that out in a few weeks when I do my spring cleanout (as well looking for burrs, as suggested by Michael). With the range of coal sizes I got in my Blaschak "nut" this year, that's a real possibility. Thanks for the tip, and for the info on Never-Seez (Nuclear grade).

Buying a can of that stuff won't get me landed on a terrorist watch list I hope. :lol:
Nope - just land you in the poor house ! :D

It's expensive, but you don't need much. A small can lasts a long time and can be used for a lot of tough jobs. And more importantly, in such an extreme environment, it holds up where all the other anti-seize brands burn away to nothing left.

Paul

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