New to the site and to coal

New to the site and to coal

PostBy: chuckwest On: Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:43 pm

Hello everyone I am new on the forum and to coal, I am thinking about hooking up an old gibraltar scr stove in my garage for next winter. The garage is 30x48 with a 10 foot ceiling and 5/12 pitch roof. Insulated with R13 in the ceiling and walls. First, will it be enough to heat my garage and second should I put the chimney through the roof or wall? Any advice will be much appreciated.
chuckwest
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Gibraltar scr
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Re: New to the site and to coal

PostBy: ShawninNY On: Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:54 pm

It may do the job just fine being that your shop is insulated , as far as chimney install whatever you prefer , I have a large stove in the corner of my garage if I were to do it again I would put it in the middle of the wall ! Are you able to put yours in the center of shop ? Good luck and welcome to forum
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Re: New to the site and to coal

PostBy: lowfog01 On: Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:46 pm

ShawninNY wrote:It may do the job just fine being that your shop is insulated , as far as chimney install whatever you prefer , I have a large stove in the corner of my garage if I were to do it again I would put it in the middle of the wall ! Are you able to put yours in the center of shop ? Good luck and welcome to forum


Hi and welcome,

Personally, I'd go out the wall. I have a real problem with putting anything through the roof. If your stove has a back exhaust port, then you'll only need a short piece straight of black pipe to reach the chimney and if your stove has a top exhaust port, the black pipe will have one 90* turn. That's not a deal breaker. Out the side wall will make it easier to clean out the pipes mid winter as well as disconnecting the stove during the summer. Good luck, Lisa
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Re: New to the site and to coal

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:00 am

Greetings,Mr.West ! A Gracious Welcome to the Ohio section of "Der Coal Board ! I'll probably move this out to out Main "Hand Fired" Section to get you even more exposure and Animal-Like responses to your impending satisfaction with Coal ! Get back to us on how your usage and layout of the shop will allow a best placement of the Chimney and Stove. I'm not a Gibraltar Man,But I've got a feeling that we can more than get the heat you need out of it for a Quality Winter Experience next year! :up:
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Re: New to the site and to coal

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:33 am

Welcome.

ShawninNY wrote:It may do the job just fine being that your shop is insulated , as far as chimney install whatever you prefer , I have a large stove in the corner of my garage if I were to do it again I would put it in the middle of the wall ! Are you able to put yours in the center of shop ? Good luck and welcome to forum


This for location.

If you were to put the stove in a corner, it makes it a much longer way for heat to have to travel to get to the opposite corner.

For getting the stove closest to all parts of the space, in the middle of the space is best. Second best would be near the middle of a long wall.

Third best - middle of a short wall.

Last is a corner.


And this from Lisa too.

"Personally, I'd go out the wall. I have a real problem with putting anything through the roof. If your stove has a back exhaust port, then you'll only need a short piece straight of black pipe to reach the chimney and if your stove has a top exhaust port, the black pipe will have one 90* turn. That's not a deal breaker. Out the side wall will make it easier to clean out the pipes mid winter as well as disconnecting the stove during the summer. Good luck, Lisa"

Through a roof just makes any chimney maintenance/repairs that much more difficult and it doesn't help the roof any. Only trade off worth a roof exit is if you can gain by putting the stove toward the middle of the space. Another plus for that is risk of draft problems are less if you can go through near the peak of the roof. Otherwise, if the stove has to be on a wall, I'd go through the wall.

Paul
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Re: New to the site and to coal

PostBy: joeq On: Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:47 am

Another welcome to the site Chuck. Sounds like a nice garage you got there. What do you do in it? Run a business, or a hobby work shop for cars, wood, or something else?
Me, my garage is a little smaller, and was heated with a Modine propane heater yrs ago. The price they get for "limited use" propane was insane. The heater went on the blitz almost 5 yrs ago, and I still haven't fixed it. It' has seriously cut down my motivation to go out and work, with a small kerosine heater, for hobby purposes, in the frigid cold. I only go out there for unscheduled maintenance.
Since I've begun burning coal in my house, 3 yrs ago, I thought of using a coal stove in my garage, but am worried about the effort keeping a coal stove running in the house, "and" in the garage. I also don't know much about the Gibralter stove, but if it's a combo stove, might be a good thing. If my garage was to see a projected job of only a days work, then I think a few logs would ignite quickly, and supply enuff heat for the day, without the need for the involved procedures, of firing up a new coal bed. (Someone can jump in and correct me if need be). If the job was to require a few days or more, then having the option of long burning coal might be more appealing. Just a thought. As for chimney placement, just keep it away from the work area, if you have the option. A neighbor of mine w/ a 2 car attached garage, put his woodstove right square in the middle of 1 bay, so now you can't even get a car in there. :cry:
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Re: New to the site and to coal

PostBy: franco b On: Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:26 pm

There is a case for an inside chimney too, which is what i prefer. I am assuming a stainless chimney.

Less expensive pipe needed and the inside portion of smoke pipe gives off heat to the interior.
Better draft, straight up and out. Probably one story so minimal height.
Much faster, cheaper installation.
With that steep roof pitch less pipe needed with less protruding above roof that needs bracing.
Downside is that ladder is needed to disconnect smoke pipe for cleaning and to run brush up remaining portion. Brush has to be run up through plastic garbage bag to catch fly ash.
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Re: New to the site and to coal

PostBy: Smoker858 On: Sat Mar 15, 2014 12:51 pm

Welcome aboard CW. Once you decide where to locate the stove, if on a wall, consider instead of an elbow outside, a Tee to act as a cleanout .
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Re: New to the site and to coal

PostBy: chuckwest On: Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:21 pm

Thanks everyone for the advise, my garage has three garage doors, three man doors and five windows. When you stand in front of the garage on the right side will be two rooms in an area nine by eighteen foot there will be a bathroom nine by seven foot with a back up propane heater to keep the pipes from freezing if we go away and can't fire the stove. I would post a picture of it if I could figure out how. Thanks again and please keep them coming!
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Gibraltar scr
Other Heating: Propane

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