Poll: What is your average "delivered" cost of electricity

What is your average "delivered" cost of electricity

less than $0.06 per KWH
1
5%
$0.06 per KWH
0
No votes
$0.07 per KWH
0
No votes
$0.08 per KWH
0
No votes
$0.09 per KWH
0
No votes
$0.10 per KWH
3
14%
$0.11 per KWH
3
14%
$0.12 per KWH
2
9%
$0.13 per KWH
2
9%
$0.14 per KWH
1
5%
$0.15 per KWH
3
14%
$0.16 per KWH
4
18%
$0.17 per KWH
0
No votes
$0.18 per KWH
0
No votes
$0.19 per KWH
0
No votes
$0.20 per KWH
0
No votes
$0.21 per KWH
0
No votes
$0.22 per KWH
1
5%
greater than $0.22 per KWH
2
9%
 
Total votes : 22

Poll: What is your average "delivered" cost of electricity

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:56 am

To calculate this, take a couple of your most recent electricity bills, and divide the price they are asking you to pay by the KWH's (Kilowatt Hours) you used for the payment period. Note carefully that this is not the cost per KWH as seen on your billing statement, but rather this is your delivered cost.

For example:

Payment required = $70
Monthly KWH used = 600

70 divided by 600 = $0.117

Your answer is $0.117 per KWH on a "delivered" basis

Round off and enter your result into the poll. The above example would round off to $0.12

For where I live my answer rounds to $0.13 per KWH, and that it what I have entered for our home.
lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Stockton Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (13.5 KW)

Re: Poll: What is your average "delivered" cost of electricity

PostBy: CapeCoaler On: Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:06 am

.22 KWH...
Just waiting for 'Cape Wind' to double that price...
If it ever gets approved...
CapeCoaler
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: want AA130
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine BS#4, Harman MKII, Hitzer 503,...
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Stove

Re: Poll: What is your average "delivered" cost of electricity

PostBy: KLook On: Sun Mar 16, 2014 10:24 am

.0979.....Ours have risen the last year and I am not sure why. It has been rainy and they said they LOWERED the price because the hydro generators are running full tilt.

Kevin
KLook
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Harman VF 3000
Coal Size/Type: rice, bagged, Blaschak
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman (Back In Maine)
Stove/Furnace Model: VF 3000


Re: Poll: What is your average "delivered" cost of electricity

PostBy: franco b On: Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:36 am

My charge is .26, but that includes $16.00 as a basic charge no matter how much usage. Since I only used 156 KWH the KWH charge would be lower with greater usage where the $16 would be averaged over a greater number of KWH.
franco b
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: V ermont Castings 2310, Franco Belge 262
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Modern Oak 114
Coal Size/Type: nut and pea

Re: Poll: What is your average "delivered" cost of electricity

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:45 am

We have our own village electric service with a fixed rate contract for hydroelectric. When we go over the 100,000 kw limit we pay extra for purchasing power from the grid, which I'm told, is supplied by mostly gas-fired power plants.

In summer it's 3.5 cents a kw, total cost delivered. In winter that usually goes up to 4.5 - 5.5 cents kw because of the added cost for going over the village's limit.

This winter we're way over that limit. The high demand has driven the cost up to 9.5 cents kw. More than half of which is purchased power. :shock:

Not as bad as the 16 cents kw I had 22 years ago on Long Island, but it's still a shock to see bills almost double what they usually are.

So much for the BS that all those windmills around here will bring electric costs down. :mad:

Paul
Sunny Boy
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Poll: What is your average "delivered" cost of electricity

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:50 am

franco b wrote:My charge is .26, but that includes $16.00 as a basic charge no matter how much usage. Since I only used 156 KWH the KWH charge would be lower with greater usage where the $16 would be averaged over a greater number of KWH.


Such a flat service charge severely punishes (in effect taxes) those who don't use much electricity to the benefit of those who do. It is a powerful disincentive to those thinking of saving electricity.

What if you had solar panels and you were pushing electricity onto the grid instead of consuming it? Would the $16 per month charge still be issued to you in that case?
lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Stockton Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (13.5 KW)

Re: Poll: What is your average "delivered" cost of electricity

PostBy: KLook On: Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:54 am

I did not think it was remotely possible to get electricity for .035/ Kw in NY state! :shock: Our rates in Maine were driven by the NY and Boston market so we had to pay what they would pay. How did anyone pull that off? The producer would sell it at highest price if they could. :o

Kevin
KLook
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Harman VF 3000
Coal Size/Type: rice, bagged, Blaschak
Stove/Furnace Make: Harman (Back In Maine)
Stove/Furnace Model: VF 3000

Re: Poll: What is your average "delivered" cost of electricity

PostBy: franco b On: Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:09 pm

lsayre wrote:
franco b wrote:My charge is .26, but that includes $16.00 as a basic charge no matter how much usage. Since I only used 156 KWH the KWH charge would be lower with greater usage where the $16 would be averaged over a greater number of KWH.


Such a flat service charge severely punishes (in effect taxes) those who don't use much electricity to the benefit of those who do. It is a powerful disincentive to those thinking of saving electricity.

What if you had solar panels and you were pushing electricity onto the grid instead of consuming it? Would the $16 per month charge still be issued to you in that case?

The $16 is just for being hooked up, so would apply in any case. There are two hydro plants within a few miles of me but these were immediately stripped away from the power company and set up as a separate company.

Our hero attorney general says he fought very hard to hold down rates to what are the probably the highest in the country. He is now a US Senator.

Rates just about doubled when independent generation rates were instituted.
franco b
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: V ermont Castings 2310, Franco Belge 262
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood Modern Oak 114
Coal Size/Type: nut and pea

Re: Poll: What is your average "delivered" cost of electricity

PostBy: samhill On: Sun Mar 16, 2014 12:46 pm

Mine comes in a little over .103 so I bumped it to .11, I'm in a Co-Op that has a bit of hydro, nuke & even poo digester or two, don't know about any wind or solar to speak of.
samhill
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: keystoker 160
Hand Fed Coal Stove: hitzer 75 in garage
Stove/Furnace Make: keystoker/hitzer
Stove/Furnace Model: koker 160/ hitzer 75

Re: Poll: What is your average "delivered" cost of electricity

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:37 pm

KLook wrote:I did not think it was remotely possible to get electricity for .035/ Kw in NY state! :shock: Our rates in Maine were driven by the NY and Boston market so we had to pay what they would pay. How did anyone pull that off? The producer would sell it at highest price if they could. :o

Kevin



Kevin,
Our Mayor told me there are 42 municipalities in NYS that have their our power departments - established long ago. My village is one of them. Like here, most are supplied by old fixed-rate contracts, bought long ago, when the St Lawrence River hydro system was first being built.

Two of those 42 are on Long Island - Freeport and Garden City, which have always had their own power plants.

It would really get LILCO customers mad to know that cheaper power could be done on LI whenever LILCO (Long Island Lighting Co. back then) tried to justify their 16 cents a kw, because Freeport and Garden City were always about half LILCO's rates, . . . right in the heart of LILCO's coverage. :roll:

Paul
Sunny Boy
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Anthracite Industrial, domestic hot water heater
Baseburners & Antiques: Glenwood range 208, # 6 base heater, 2 Modern Oak 118.
Coal Size/Type: Nuts !
Other Heating: Oil &electric plenum furnace

Re: Poll: What is your average "delivered" cost of electricity

PostBy: mozz On: Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:00 pm

0.1465046728971963kwh delivered.
mozz
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 1982 AA-130 Steam

Re: Poll: What is your average "delivered" cost of electricity

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:07 pm

mozz wrote:0.1465046728971963kwh delivered.


Wow, that's a lot of decimal places of precision. Call it $0.15 and (if you haven't already) plant it in the .poll for posterity.
lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Stockton Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (13.5 KW)

Re: Poll: What is your average "delivered" cost of electricity

PostBy: northernmainecoal On: Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:18 pm

$0.16 delivered here
northernmainecoal
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM 520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 30-95
Baseburners & Antiques: Herald Baseheater #6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Nut/Stove

Re: Poll: What is your average "delivered" cost of electricity

PostBy: lsayre On: Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:18 pm

Sunny Boy wrote:In summer it's 3.5 cents a kw, total cost delivered. In winter that usually goes up to 4.5 - 5.5 cents kw because of the added cost for going over the village's limit.


If the power companies real cost to produce and deliver (while merely breaking even on expenses and upkeep) is say $0.06 per KWH, and you are getting it delivered for $0.035 to $0.055 due to being grandfathered into a contract, do you feel that the contract you have should remain valid forever, or should the power company declare force majeure and get things legally set right? Do you feel any level of guilt knowing that others are paying more so you can pay less (you lucky dog! :) )?
lsayre
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AHS S130 Coal Gun
Coal Size/Type: Stockton Anthracite Pea
Other Heating: Resistance Boiler (13.5 KW)

Re: Poll: What is your average "delivered" cost of electricity

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:56 pm

[quote="northernmainecoal"]$0.16 delivered here[/quote]

Same here my northern neighbor, I tried doing laundry at night and walking around shutting stuff off whenever a room was empty...lucky if I saved 4 bucks! :?
michaelanthony
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant 2310, gold marc box, vogelzang pot belly coat rack
Coal Size/Type: Pea, and a little nut
Other Heating: Very cold FHA oil furnace