Dust control- need help!

Dust control- need help!

PostBy: ridgeracing On: Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:35 pm

I have been using my DS hopper fed hand fired stove for 2 seasons now and love its performance. We have it in our basement/family room of our ranch home. My problem is DUST! I get 3 tons delivered wet that is stored 6ft from stove in basement. I then hand shovel coal into a 15-20lb bucket that I dump in hopper every 12 hrs. This year I got a small weed spray pump that I use to water coal down before shoveling into bucket and dump into stove. But that has not really helped, our basement gets coated black pretty bad and my sons room that has supply fan from basement is black, his room gets dusty as well, but not as bad as basement. Furniture in base. Is just aweful! Any help/suggestions. I thought of getting oiled coal but don't no of anyone that sells it close to Harrisburg PA. I get my coal at RR coal in Lykens. Thanks for help!
ridgeracing
 
Hand Fed Coal Stove: DS Machine Stove
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Re: Dust control- need help!

PostBy: Keepaeyeonit On: Mon Mar 17, 2014 8:55 pm

I fill 5gal buckets then I spray the top with oil about a week before I fill my indoor bin,when I get a bulk bin I will spray the coal as its coming down the shoot.I use mineral oil from TSC its $17.99/gal(I use 2 gal a year with 4 tons of coal) but some people use peanut oil, I have used canola oil in the past but it builds up on the buckets and my indoor bin over time plus its a bitch to clean. when I started to burn coal I sprayed it with water before filling the stove like you and I had black dust too but with the oil I have none.I would oil it on your next bin fill but for now just give it a good spray with oil and let it work its way down into pile. Keepaeyeonit
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Re: Dust control- need help!

PostBy: 2001Sierra On: Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:34 pm

Peanut oil is my choice, I use a Wagner Power Painter Plus.
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Re: Dust control- need help!

PostBy: oliver power On: Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:36 pm

Put your bin outside. Carry coal into basement using 5 gallon pails. Dump in stove hopper. The draft will pull dust into stove. If no outside access to basement, run 4" PVC piping from outside box, to hopper.
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Re: Dust control- need help!

PostBy: oliver power On: Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:37 pm

2001Sierra wrote:Peanut oil is my choice, I use a Wagner Power Painter Plus.

HEY!, how'd you get ahead of me??? :)
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Re: Dust control- need help!

PostBy: tjnamtiw On: Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:27 pm

In the OLD days, didn't coal deliverers use oil on the coal instead of water? I seem to remember that.
Sounds like a good way to use drain oil??
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Re: Dust control- need help!

PostBy: Freddy On: Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:17 am

Maybe consider switching to bagged coal? It comes wet...sometimes too wet, but very little if any dust.
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Re: Dust control- need help!

PostBy: Rob R. On: Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:58 am

Any chance you are dumping the ashes in the basement? Or do you just carry the pan straight outdoors?
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Re: Dust control- need help!

PostBy: Uglysquirrel On: Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:21 am

Freddy wrote:Maybe consider switching to bagged coal? It comes wet...sometimes too wet, but very little if any dust.



Agree. First year was bulk, terrible dust. Blaschak looks like it is washed pretty well, not the best BTU though dust even when dried after a summer's heat is very minimal.

All this coal dust discussion (and ash) long ago is the unfortunate origin (I am told) of "Spring Cleaning".

Ug
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Re: Dust control- need help!

PostBy: Beeman On: Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:30 am

Consider buying your coal already oiled. As I recall, you are in Lancaster County. Country Meadows in Smoketown sells oiled coal at fair prices. I have a hopper stove and pour coal into it from buckets twice a day--no problem with dust. Also, it is possible for coal to be over-oiled so that it can produce mini-puffbacks. See my previous post and video on this topic. Good luck.
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Re: Dust control- need help!

PostBy: ridgeracing On: Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:30 am

Ok, thanks for all replies
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Re: Dust control- need help!

PostBy: ddahlgren On: Fri Mar 21, 2014 8:55 am

Keepaeyeonit wrote:I fill 5gal buckets then I spray the top with oil about a week before I fill my indoor bin,when I get a bulk bin I will spray the coal as its coming down the shoot.I use mineral oil from TSC its $17.99/gal(I use 2 gal a year with 4 tons of coal) but some people use peanut oil, I have used canola oil in the past but it builds up on the buckets and my indoor bin over time plus its a bitch to clean. when I started to burn coal I sprayed it with water before filling the stove like you and I had black dust too but with the oil I have none.I would oil it on your next bin fill but for now just give it a good spray with oil and let it work its way down into pile. Keepaeyeonit


Isn't that only 35 lbs of coal? What do you do have a dozen of them?

How bad is the coal when bagged? Does anyone sell the oiled bagged coal in the CT RI area and delivers?
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Re: Dust control- need help!

PostBy: Ed.A On: Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:07 pm

Put your coal outside, seems the easiest way to control that.
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Re: Dust control- need help!

PostBy: Ed.A On: Fri Mar 21, 2014 7:12 pm

ddahlgren wrote:
How bad is the coal when bagged? Does anyone sell the oiled bagged coal in the CT RI area and delivers?



Uhmm, I don't think so. The majority in our area sell Blashak watered bags. I the only issue I can say is sometimes those bags have more water than needed and can be a slight issue. I use a Salad fork and pierce my bags on the pallets which helps stop having frozen blocks of coal in the dead of winter. Dust is a non issue.
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Re: Dust control- need help!

PostBy: grimmy On: Fri Mar 21, 2014 9:18 pm

You can still get coal oil. Just dump on during delivery, roughly a gallon a ton. I will get the manufactures info, we purchase it in 55 gallon drums. I would think that coal yards could oil your coal if your purchasing bulk.
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