how do you handle your coal?

Re: how do you handle your coal?

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Tue Mar 18, 2014 11:51 am

HELLO ... i must be typing with invisible ink,you can fill a bin to the ceiling 20' from the window...... conveyor,auger,elevator, any of those will easily carry the coal from the window to the bin at whatever distance you want. fasten the bin end of auger/conveyor to a track so you can swing it side to side & FILL ALL THE BIN full to the top. Truck chute only has to get coal to the auger/conveyor,so angle should not be an issue.
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Re: how do you handle your coal?

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:02 pm

windyhill4.2 wrote:HELLO ... i must be typing with invisible ink,you can fill a bin to the ceiling 20' from the window...... conveyor,auger,elevator, any of those will easily carry the coal from the window to the bin at whatever distance you want. fasten the bin end of auger/conveyor to a track so you can swing it side to side & FILL ALL THE BIN full to the top. Truck chute only has to get coal to the auger/conveyor,so angle should not be an issue.



Saw it Dave.

What's the cost of a conveyor/auger, as opposed to put the bin close enough so that gravity and a simple shute will work ?

Paul
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Re: how do you handle your coal?

PostBy: Lu47Dan On: Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:20 pm

HB is that a water meter on the wall next to the window or a pressure regulator? If it is check with the water authority to see how much space you have to leave in front of the meter. I do not remember what it is by code but 3' comes to mind.
If you can do it, an auger run from the window across the basement into a bin by the furnace would be better than blocking your water meter with the bin.
Dan.
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Re: how do you handle your coal?

PostBy: Rob R. On: Tue Mar 18, 2014 12:54 pm

windyhill4.2 wrote:HELLO ... i must be typing with invisible ink,you can fill a bin to the ceiling 20' from the window...... conveyor,auger,elevator, any of those will easily carry the coal from the window to the bin at whatever distance you want. fasten the bin end of auger/conveyor to a track so you can swing it side to side & FILL ALL THE BIN full to the top. Truck chute only has to get coal to the auger/conveyor,so angle should not be an issue.


You can auger it all the way from the street if you want, but it would be cost prohibitive for most people. Your mileage may vary...pick whatever works best for your situation.
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Re: how do you handle your coal?

PostBy: hotblast1357 On: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:05 pm

windyhill4.2 wrote:HELLO ... i must be typing with invisible ink,you can fill a bin to the ceiling 20' from the window...... conveyor,auger,elevator, any of those will easily carry the coal from the window to the bin at whatever distance you want. fasten the bin end of auger/conveyor to a track so you can swing it side to side & FILL ALL THE BIN full to the top. Truck chute only has to get coal to the auger/conveyor,so angle should not be an issue.



Do you have a free auger or conveyor for me?
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Re: how do you handle your coal?

PostBy: hotblast1357 On: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:07 pm

[quote="Lu47Dan"]HB is that a water meter on the wall next to the window or a pressure regulator? If it is check with the water authority to see how much space you have to leave in front of the meter. I do not remember what it is by code but 3' comes to mind.
If you can do it, an auger run from the window across the basement into a bin by the furnace would be better than blocking your water meter with the bin.
Dan.[/quote

Yes it is my water meter, I am not going to block it, I'm going to start my wall on this of it so it is accessible, the read it via wireless from the street but I still want access to it
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Re: how do you handle your coal?

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:16 pm

Looking closely at the pic.you would have max 12-14' of auger/conveyor to fill the bin & be able to keep bin away from the pipes in the corner,and not have to walk 12'with each shovel full of coal. Auger/conveyor/elevator can be purchased at reasonable cost for a used unit from an used Ag/Farm equipment dealer OR maybe even rent a unit each time you fill the bin. Simply build in right location now for ease of use daily for yrs,or build to window, blocking the pipes,coal chute would still not FILL the bin,& you would walk each shovel full xx amount more each & every shovel full as you tend the stove daily vs fill the bin 1 time per month, 1- 5 times per yr. :roll: Do it right the first time or wish you had. All this is just my .0000000000000000001 worth suggestion, it will not bother me or cause me to lose sleep no matter what you do,i will not have to live with your decision,that will be your part.
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Re: how do you handle your coal?

PostBy: hotblast1357 On: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:20 pm

Well I can't put the bin next to the stove cuz the washer and dryer are on the other side of the stove, and I am not buying or renting a auger, I don't see a issue about coal flow? And it won't be 12 feet away either? It is only maybe 4 feet from the stove, maybe the picture is confusing for you guys with depth
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Re: how do you handle your coal?

PostBy: Lu47Dan On: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:27 pm

HB, thanks for the information. I would still call and find out as most water authorities have a set clearance on them. If you impinge on that area they can shut you off until you correct the problem.
Try moving a 300Hp boiler, one foot to get the water turned back on. Ended up moving the meter and adding new piping. That was the original plan, but the plumbers skipped that to save money. When the WA came in to change the meter two years after the boiler installation was done, they wanted the boiler moved out of "their" space. It was not the two workers who were installing the meter but the inspector who forced the issue.
They never shut off the water as it would have shut down the plant, but they could have.
I liked it as the work was done on a Saturday and Sunday, time and a half for Saturday and Double time on Sunday X 12 hours a day. A weeks pay for two days work.
I would hate to see you stuck with having to move your bin wall 2" to get it out of "their" space.
Dan.
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Re: how do you handle your coal?

PostBy: hotblast1357 On: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:36 pm

Lol I agree thanks for the heads up I will find out
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Re: how do you handle your coal?

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Tue Mar 18, 2014 1:42 pm

Well i guess the fault lies with us not asking enough questions of you about distances,etc.
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Re: how do you handle your coal?

PostBy: hotblast1357 On: Tue Mar 18, 2014 5:42 pm

That's only half my basement also
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Re: how do you handle your coal?

PostBy: tjnamtiw On: Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:19 pm

hotblast1357 wrote:Lol I agree thanks for the heads up I will find out


And get it in writing or an email that can be saved! Tape a copy to the meter for posterity too. We are dealing with the 'govmint', after all.
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Re: how do you handle your coal?

PostBy: hotblast1357 On: Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:23 pm

Absolutely, I work for NYS DOT so I know what you mean lol
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Re: how do you handle your coal?

PostBy: Bruce M On: Tue Mar 18, 2014 7:56 pm

I put a wheel barrow down the basement, load it from the bin and wheel it over to the stove, works great.
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