Lawn tractor tire problem

Re: Lawn tractor tire problem

PostBy: SWPaDon On: Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:30 pm

I used ether at one time to seat beads on tires. Until I started seeing and hearing of things like these:

[youtube] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5Hy1zNZw4E [/youtube]

[youtube] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-3U-TRkJx8 [/youtube]
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Re: Lawn tractor tire problem

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:36 pm

20 windows got blown out of my dad's shop after a mishap with ether in a huge loader tire.
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Re: Lawn tractor tire problem

PostBy: MarkV On: Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:06 pm

Wow, thanks guys!!! Lots of good info and links there--not to mention interesting stories.

If the tire's still leaking I'll definitely dunk it in water and locate the leak. I bought a patching kit along with the valve stem tool just in case. With the tips here I'm pretty sure I can remove and reseal the tire if needed.

I'll probably return the Slime, too. :D
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Re: Lawn tractor tire problem

PostBy: coalkirk On: Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:22 pm

I'm sure it makes a helluva mess if you have to dismount one but the green slime has never let me down. I've used it in my mower, mower cart and wheel barrow.
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Re: Lawn tractor tire problem

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:27 pm

Used the green stuff on my CUB lawn tractor 3 yrs ago--both front tires & no problems as of yet--
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Re: Lawn tractor tire problem

PostBy: 2001Sierra On: Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:43 pm

freetown fred wrote:Used the green stuff on my CUB lawn tractor 3 yrs ago--both front tires & no problems as of yet--

Who said you can't teach an old dog new tricks!

Too bad the new trick is not recommended by many younger pups :oops:
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Re: Lawn tractor tire problem

PostBy: freetown fred On: Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:21 pm

Reason being was the Fix-a-Flat only lasted 2 yrs :clap: toothy I'm often glad I come from a simpler era Sierra ;)
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Re: Lawn tractor tire problem

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Mon Mar 31, 2014 7:05 am

FF, the era you came from had no tire sealants,the fix was a tube in the tube type tire & then patch the tube when it leaked,I'm only 57 & i remember those days & was glad to see tubeless tires take over.Yes,green slime works,but when that tire wears out throw the tire & wheel in the junk,buy a new asm. to install, OR clean it all up yourself & learn what repair shops have to deal with on a regular basis,the only thing simple about sealant is the installation. I find plugging a non-radial tire easier than slimeing .
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Re: Lawn tractor tire problem

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Mon Mar 31, 2014 8:43 am

SWPaDon wrote:I used ether at one time to seat beads on tires. Until I started seeing and hearing of things like these:

[youtube] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5Hy1zNZw4E [/youtube]

[youtube] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-3U-TRkJx8 [/youtube]



The 1st one is just drama induced. And fake. The second was an idiot putting a metal object between him and the tire. I have done lots of tires that way and never had a problem. But I stand back and throw a match. It only ends up with maybe 5lbs pressure once cooled. I think caution is still needed but if done right no problems,. I will still do it when necessary.
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Re: Lawn tractor tire problem

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:33 am

I was trying to stay away from the ether tire inflation thing ,but, i have done numerous big rig tires with ether,it does require a lot of common sense ! the most dangerous part is if it doesn't light the first time,the ether will become a liquid in the lower part of the tire,when more ether is then sprayed in & ignited ,the liquid will then ignite causing a secondary explosion ,that is what most likely kills the user. Careful use & minimal use are the 2 biggest factors in a good ending. I no longer use this method as i have tools & more experience in how to mount tires without using ether. ETHER CAN BE USED TO SEAT TIRE BEADS ,MUST BE USED WITH EXTREME CAUTION , IT IS NOT A RECOMMENDED PROCEDURE, IF THE ETHER PROCEDURE GOES WRONG IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FAR BETTER/CHEAPER TO HAVE A PROFESSIONAL INSTALL THE TIRE FOR YOU. I install difficult tires on rims all the time without using ether,it may take a little longer ,but is less stressful than waiting for the bang & ( how big it will be).
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Re: Lawn tractor tire problem

PostBy: Rob R. On: Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:18 am

Subject: Lawn tractor tire problem

windyhill4.2 wrote:I was trying to stay away from the ether tire inflation thing ,but, i have done numerous big rig tires with ether,it does require a lot of common sense ! the most dangerous part is if it doesn't light the first time,the ether will become a liquid in the lower part of the tire,when more ether is then sprayed in & ignited ,the liquid will then ignite causing a secondary explosion ,that is what most likely kills the user. Careful use & minimal use are the 2 biggest factors in a good ending. I no longer use this method as i have tools & more experience in how to mount tires without using ether. ETHER CAN BE USED TO SEAT TIRE BEADS ,MUST BE USED WITH EXTREME CAUTION , IT IS NOT A RECOMMENDED PROCEDURE, IF THE ETHER PROCEDURE GOES WRONG IT WOULD HAVE BEEN FAR BETTER/CHEAPER TO HAVE A PROFESSIONAL INSTALL THE TIRE FOR YOU. I install difficult tires on rims all the time without using ether,it may take a little longer ,but is less stressful than waiting for the bang & ( how big it will be).


that is what happened to the guy working in my dad's shop. Huge loader tire, split ring wheel, tried 2-3 times with ether and it wouldn't light. he thought he wasn't using enough, so he REALLY sprayed it in and tried one more time. blew a 20" hole in the tread of a 12 ply Firestone loader tire, blew all the windows out of the shop, knocked every tool off the wall, knocked him on his ass and blew out one eardrum. Could have been a lot worse.

I have a "Cheetah" tank that works wonders on tubeless tires. A ratchet strap and a few other tricks also help get stubborn tires to hold air.
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Re: Lawn tractor tire problem

PostBy: 009to090 On: Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:54 am

Rob R. wrote: A ratchet strap and a few other tricks also help get stubborn tires to hold air.

I only use ratchet straps if I can't seat the bead by hand. I like the looks of the Cheeta inflator, but have never used one.
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Re: Lawn tractor tire problem

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon Mar 31, 2014 11:28 am

Yeah slime SUCKS to clean up. That said, it does work - it held my ATV tire together for 8 years.

I do those small lawn tractor tires all the time. Fronts won't fit on the tire machine, so I do them with tire irons. Some are worse than others, but all take some effort.

With all those small tires, I don't bother screwing around with bead sealer or patches. Just buy a couple tubes for $25 -$30 or so, install, and never worry about the tires leaking again ... provided you install them correctly. ;) I've tubed tires that were so dry rotted that air leaked out through the sidewall cracks. Years later they're still holding air.
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Re: Lawn tractor tire problem

PostBy: windyhill4.2 On: Sun Apr 06, 2014 8:08 pm

One thing i forgot to mention b4 was the ruined pressure gauges from checking tires with slime in,if we know ahead of time we don't use a gauge,we just push down on the tire & guess on the pressure,but we generally if ever see a sign on the tire warning us about the crap inside.
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Re: Lawn tractor tire problem

PostBy: MarkV On: Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:54 pm

Just a followup...today I mowed our grass for the first time this spring. After mowing, I noticed the other front tire on my tractor was nearly flat just as I was pulling up to the garage.

This time, it was a roofing staple in the tread. We had our roof replaced last summer and I guess the roofer let one get away.

Now I'll get to try out my plug kit I got when trying to fix the other tire. :D
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