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keystoker

PostBy: lzaharis On: Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:53 pm

I was wondering why the Keystoker folks are not
in in the manufacturers corner?

If this has been answered please accept my
sincere apology for asking about it..
lzaharis
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Switzer
Stove/Furnace Model: CWW100 100,000 btu

Re: keystoker

PostBy: blrman07 On: Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:42 am

Did you have a question about a stove/boiler/furance? Maybe we can help.

Rev. Larry
New Beginning Church
Ashland Pa.
blrman07
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Bucket a Day
Hand Fed Coal Stove: installing a VC 2310
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Wood in the VC and anything that will fit in the Bucket a Day. It's not fussy.

Re: keystoker

PostBy: lzaharis On: Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:52 am

Hello Rev. Larry,

I only wondered why the Keystoker folks were not in
manufacturers corner portion of the home page.


Leon
lzaharis
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Switzer
Stove/Furnace Model: CWW100 100,000 btu


Re: keystoker

PostBy: Pacowy On: Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:22 am

They have a lot of dealers and the person who answers the phone at Keystoker has been very helpful the times I have called. I don't know why they aren't on the forum, but I wouldn't interpret that as anything bad about their customer service.

Mike
Pacowy
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: H.B. Smith 350 Mills boiler/EFM 85R stoker
Coal Size/Type: Buckwheat/anthracite

Re: keystoker

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:07 pm

They may just not have anyone available to keep on top of the postings and interact
Carbon12
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Other Heating: Heat Pump/Forced Hot Air Oil Furnace

Re: keystoker

PostBy: lzaharis On: Tue Apr 01, 2014 12:47 pm

Pacowy wrote:
They have a lot of dealers and the person who answers the phone at Keystoker
has been very helpful the times I have called.

I don't know why they aren't on the forum, but I wouldn't interpret that as anything
bad about their customer service.

Mike



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The above is the first mile of linear track for my
future G scale railroad
(one mile of G scale track is equivalent to 287 feet)..


I was only curious as to why they were not on the forum
in the manufacturers corner.

I spent quite bit of time on the phone with them the other day.

I explained I was going to attend their meet and greet at
Warners Stoves and Coal in Candor on 5, April 2014 as I am
intent on switching over to coal completely and removing
my wood and coal boiler and replace it with a coal stoker.

This last oil delivery was almost one thousand dollars-
even though I am using their budget plan it "Hoovers"
to the point that push has come to shove as I can live with
just ordering oil when I need it to fill the tank and have it
simply as a back up.


OR buy it occasionally by the five gallon can and fill the tank in
the non burning months. buy ten gallons a week until it is full.

The issue for me is more of deciding that having one boiler
that is a multifuel unit versus having two boilers side by
side which has been the case for me for 32 years.

If I decide on a multifuel unit I will have a 26 year old Buderus 024
oil burner minus the burner and my wood and coal boiler to sell
on craigs list or some other venue.




The folks that I talked to were very nice and they said they would see
what they could do to bring a stoker boiler up with them.

I also wanted ask them why they are not using a retort/ burn pot for their stokers..

I explained to them that I would like to see one of their Keystoker boilers either
a KAA-2 or KAA-4-1or KA6 and that their dealer "Warners Stoves and Coal" did not
stock them or install them.

"A purchaser of a Keystoker boilerfrom Warners would have to hire thier own plumber
to do the installation".

No!!!!! I AM NOT nit picking. I just want more information to make an informed decision.
lzaharis
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Switzer
Stove/Furnace Model: CWW100 100,000 btu

Re: keystoker

PostBy: Rob R. On: Tue Apr 01, 2014 1:00 pm

If you already have an oil boiler, I would leave it in place. You can setup a separate oil boiler to come online with the flip of a switch, or even automatically.

If your closest dealer doesn't handle boilers, perhaps you should expand your search. Canandaigua Coal comes to mind, and I'm sure there are other Keystoker dealers within driving distance.

As for the question about not using a burn pot design, that is simply not their design choice. Their stoker is very simple and inexpensive compared to most underfed designs, and I'm sure they view that as a "positive".
Rob R.
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: keystoker

PostBy: lzaharis On: Tue Apr 01, 2014 2:31 pm

Hello Rob,

Thanks for responding.
The oil burner is plumbed in parallel
with one pump for the entire heat load in
one continous loop nd the second pump
is for temperature balance between
the two boilers.

The excess heat is dumped through the
house heating loop

The other issue is the chimney.
I need to have to have a power
vent installed if I use the same
slab next to the oil boiler.


This is why I have beeen examining
putting the new boiler in a small shed
with the coal load next to it built from
2 by 2 by 8 Mafia blocks and having
a 22 ton load of coal delivered for x
number of years use.
lzaharis
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Switzer
Stove/Furnace Model: CWW100 100,000 btu

Re: keystoker

PostBy: coaledsweat On: Tue Apr 01, 2014 7:27 pm

lzaharis wrote:I was wondering why the Keystoker folks are not
in in the manufacturers corner?

I believe the Mayor wants a factory rep signed in to get a manufacturers forum.
coaledsweat
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Axeman Anderson 260M
Coal Size/Type: Pea

Re: keystoker

PostBy: 2001Sierra On: Tue Apr 01, 2014 11:13 pm

These folks build coal burning appliances. With that being said they have been doing that since 1946. So now we have a forum, and I appreciate it, and work hard to support it. Why should we expect these hard working folks to conform to our ways? Success comes in many ways, I support the slow coal train that is there for all of us with very little fanfare. Just a thought.
I work on technology at a very recognized level at both academia, and corporate level, but still do not have a cell phone. I am home when I am home and answer the phone :roll:
2001Sierra
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: Keystoker 90 Chimney vent
Coal Size/Type: Rice
Other Heating: Buderus Oil Boiler 3115-34
Stove/Furnace Model: Keystoker 90 Chimney Vent

Re: keystoker

PostBy: blrman07 On: Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:07 am

I would rather see keystoker keep their people dedicated to turning out their quality product than having someone diverted to monitoring this forum for issues. Enough people on here know how to get in contact with them so if someone is having an issue we can't figure out we can refer them to call keystoker.

Rev. Larry
blrman07
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Bucket a Day
Hand Fed Coal Stove: installing a VC 2310
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Wood in the VC and anything that will fit in the Bucket a Day. It's not fussy.

Re: keystoker

PostBy: Cled On: Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:22 am

I saw this discussion and thought it right to add my thoughts. I'm fairly new to coal burning (1and 1/2 years) and have a Keystoker stove.I've called Keystoker several if not numerous times over that period.There has always been someone there to answer my questions and help me out .They are MOST helpful and for that reason I will stay with there stoves. Thank you Keystoker for helping me through.
As far as their participation in this forum, I have no comment nor think it is warranted. They are doing well enough to not need my directions.
Cled
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Keystoker
Stove/Furnace Model: Baywindow

Re: keystoker

PostBy: blrman07 On: Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:03 am

lzaharis wrote:I was wondering why the Keystoker folks are not
in in the manufacturers corner?

If this has been answered please accept my
sincere apology for asking about it..


When you joined the forum 7 years ago you said you were looking for a replacement for your Switzer?

Have you found it yet and decided to pull the trigger?

Rev. Larry
blrman07
 
Hand Fed Coal Boiler: Bucket a Day
Hand Fed Coal Stove: installing a VC 2310
Coal Size/Type: Pea/Nut/Wood in the VC and anything that will fit in the Bucket a Day. It's not fussy.

Re: keystoker

PostBy: lzaharis On: Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:01 am

blrman07 wrote:
lzaharis wrote:I was wondering why the Keystoker folks are not
in in the manufacturers corner?

If this has been answered please accept my
sincere apology for asking about it..


When you joined the forum 7 years ago you said you
were looking for a replacement for your Switzer?

Have you found it yet and decided to pull the trigger?

Rev. Larry

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Hello Rev. Larry,

I have narrowed it down to two choices after all this time
and I will make a decision after the Empire Farm Days.

My problem is simply the old house was originally a
one room school house, is poorly laid out and poorly
insulated and I am on a limited income and the
last $1,000.00 fuel bill was the straw that broke the
camels back even with the Suburban Propain budget
plan that I pay for being almost as large as my
mortgage payment.

With an adequate draft an high winds I end up with a
good coal fire using nut coal and leaving the ash pit door
open on the Switzer and the wife is always complaining
about being cold. The other issue is that we have a lot of
still air even though we are at 1,140 feet above mean sea level.

The chimney extension helps some but..........

I never wanted to start an argument about why Keystoker
is not in the manufacturers corner.
Last edited by lzaharis on Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:17 am, edited 1 time in total.
lzaharis
 
Stove/Furnace Make: Switzer
Stove/Furnace Model: CWW100 100,000 btu

Re: keystoker

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Wed Apr 02, 2014 10:07 am

Some discussion on this topic on the following link.

Other Coal Burning Appliance Manufacturers MIA???
Carbon12
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker KA-6
Coal Size/Type: Rice/Anthracite
Other Heating: Heat Pump/Forced Hot Air Oil Furnace