Warm Weather Burning in a Hand Fed
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I keep a bucket of the TSC Kimmels near the stove in case I have brain fade and forget to do the shake poke routine and not much fire left it has saved this lazy butt a few times in the last month. Ash pan door open crack MPD as the last time went to full open when in trouble what little heat went away and fire out. I sprinkle a little small bits around and repeat as each little bit catches. Shake down when I have some sort of decent fire or possibly just poke under a few grates to help build the fire.
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Update.. 42 hours since last shake and load. Last night I closed up some of the secondary combustion air and closed the door on the exhaust diverter. I increased heat output with a smidgen more primary air. She's been holding steady at 220 over the load door, no loss of heat output yet. Gonna maintain course for the 48 hour burn..Lightning wrote:Here we are, Christmas Eve.. We will have about 20 family members for a Christmas "get together" this evening. Unfortunately it's not gonna be a white Christmas. Highs forecasted to top out around 60 degrees today and it's 46 right now at 8:45am.
I already started dialing the furnace into sleep mode last night after shake and load. With the nut/stove mix in my bin, I sought out 60 pounds of the smallest stuff and got what looks like a pea/nut mix. I won't do a shake and load today, the 60 pounds I put in last night at this burn rate will run 36-48 hours.
This morning I opened all the secondary air ports including the flange on the backside of the furnace. I opened the door on the exhaust diverter also. These adjustments are needed to keep my draft flowing.
Here's some pics from this morning, about 9 hours since last tending. It doesn't appear to even be burning at all. I shut off all the lights in the basement and could make out a few points of dull red deep under the top layer of cold coal.
Merry Christmas everyone..
I hope nobody gets TOO warm today.. lol
36 outside
75 in the living room
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I hear yah bro no need for speed up here, in the 40's and didn't bother with a shake today just threw in about 10 -12 lbs and and it still looks like crusted lava waiting to..........
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Those jackalopes at the weather station had forecast 60°. Well, I just looked on my weather station, and it recorded a high of 61° at 04:00 - it was all downhill from there ...
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Ah yes the elusive Jackalope. Only seen them mounted on the wall behind the counter at Mom & Pop motels out West. Still not quite as rare as the fur bearing trout!SMITTY wrote:Those jackalopes at the weather station had forecast 60°.
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Yeah, I love that look..michaelanthony wrote:I hear yah bro no need for speed up here, in the 40's and didn't bother with a shake today just threw in about 10 -12 lbs and and it still looks like crusted lava waiting to..
Got thru a 48 burn without any shaking or riddling or adding of coal with only a few combustion air adjustments. Shook down, emptied the ash pan, shook again, did some heaving and shook some more, emptied ash pan AGAIN Put on 62 pounds and recovery was a little longer than usual but no problem..
32 dregrees right now but mid to low 40's forecast for the next couple days. Pretty mild for the first week of winter. We'll take it! At least 8 weeks till we're over the hump.SMITTY wrote:Those jackalopes at the weather station had forecast 60°. Well, I just looked on my weather station, and it recorded a high of 61° at 04:00 - it was all downhill from there ...
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...no it's the mad scientist ha! ha! ha!ddahlgren wrote:Wow that Clayton is really impressive.
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Well no doubt right there stove might need renaming to a Lightning MK Imichaelanthony wrote:...no it's the mad scientist ha! ha! ha!ddahlgren wrote:Wow that Clayton is really impressive.
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60s, 70s and 80s in New York State, if I'm reading posts correctly and owner locations??? Holy Wah! I thought we were having a heat wave here in 'da U.P. eh? with high temps in the low to mid 30s. As such I too have had to throttle my furnace down a bit to keep the house @ 72degF.
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michaelanthony wrote:...no it's the mad scientist ha! ha! ha!ddahlgren wrote:Wow that Clayton is really impressive.
Love that!! The "Lighting MK I EX-PRO" (experimental prototype)ddahlgren wrote:Well no doubt right there stove might need renaming to a Lightning MK I
Being a handicapped coal burning appliance, its taken a lot of trial and error - observation and learning to do the cool coal stunts. Thanks for the kind words..
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Does the unit you have pictured do humidity inside and out? accurate? is it wired, or wireless?? thanks a bunch for any info, BruceLightning wrote:Update.. 42 hours since last shake and load. Last night I closed up some of the secondary combustion air and closed the door on the exhaust diverter. I increased heat output with a smidgen more primary air. She's been holding steady at 220 over the load door, no loss of heat output yet. Gonna maintain course for the 48 hour burn..Lightning wrote:Here we are, Christmas Eve.. We will have about 20 family members for a Christmas "get together" this evening. Unfortunately it's not gonna be a white Christmas. Highs forecasted to top out around 60 degrees today and it's 46 right now at 8:45am.
I already started dialing the furnace into sleep mode last night after shake and load. With the nut/stove mix in my bin, I sought out 60 pounds of the smallest stuff and got what looks like a pea/nut mix. I won't do a shake and load today, the 60 pounds I put in last night at this burn rate will run 36-48 hours.
This morning I opened all the secondary air ports including the flange on the backside of the furnace. I opened the door on the exhaust diverter also. These adjustments are needed to keep my draft flowing.
Here's some pics from this morning, about 9 hours since last tending. It doesn't appear to even be burning at all. I shut off all the lights in the basement and could make out a few points of dull red deep under the top layer of cold coal.
Merry Christmas everyone..
I hope nobody gets TOO warm today.. lol
36 outside
75 in the living room
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Interesting thread to read. I have an Old Mill hand fed stove. So what you are saying when you dial down the primary air to slow it down on a warm day, you open up the secondary air (the knobs on the load doors) to keep the draft up the stack?
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Here is my Chubby Fix for warmer daytime weather. This has saved a bundle of coal. I am NO coal burning expert, I just experiment like many of you with much more experience than me.
1. I let the chubby go out
2. Shake it down
3. Shove all the unburnt coal to the rear half of the firepot
4. Add in a few of the matchlight charcoal in FRONT , and cover with "fresh" coal from the bin, about 3/4 of a scoop.
5 . Light from underside with a map gas torch ( slots in the grate) with front door closed.
6. Burn the front end, when ash builds I "poke it down" to make sure it can get new air, and empty the pan, then add another 1/2 scoop of coal, about 4-5 hours. Some of the rear coal burns and the ash is thick around the sides, but I can keep a fire which is easy to rescue and doesnt burn much coal.. This is a bit more work than the typical set up for a long burn,. but the last 4 days I have burned only 1 bag, day and nite this way..( of course the Chubby doesnt have a huge pot anyways) It has been in 40's daytime
The pictures...Note, the Last Picture "reverses" when you click to blow it up for some reason...
1. I let the chubby go out
2. Shake it down
3. Shove all the unburnt coal to the rear half of the firepot
4. Add in a few of the matchlight charcoal in FRONT , and cover with "fresh" coal from the bin, about 3/4 of a scoop.
5 . Light from underside with a map gas torch ( slots in the grate) with front door closed.
6. Burn the front end, when ash builds I "poke it down" to make sure it can get new air, and empty the pan, then add another 1/2 scoop of coal, about 4-5 hours. Some of the rear coal burns and the ash is thick around the sides, but I can keep a fire which is easy to rescue and doesnt burn much coal.. This is a bit more work than the typical set up for a long burn,. but the last 4 days I have burned only 1 bag, day and nite this way..( of course the Chubby doesnt have a huge pot anyways) It has been in 40's daytime
The pictures...Note, the Last Picture "reverses" when you click to blow it up for some reason...
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Yer sir, that is correct. The primary air mainly controls the overall heat output of the furnace. During a low slow burn I open the secondary air up which flows in over the fuel bed and gets heated. The extra heated air mass from the secondary air keeps my draft healthy. Without the extra secondary air during a warm weather burn, my draft fails and coal exhaust vents into the basement which as you know is potentially dangerous.Snotzalot wrote:Interesting thread to read. I have an Old Mill hand fed stove. So what you are saying when you dial down the primary air to slow it down on a warm day, you open up the secondary air (the knobs on the load doors) to keep the draft up the stack?