Grate blocker for lighting

Grate blocker for lighting

PostBy: av8r On: Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:19 am

My LL stoker came with a U shaped piece of steel (springy) that you used to hold the coal and cowboy charcoal on the grate when lighting the stove. Mine is melted to an unusable piece of slag and I'd like another. I suppose I could use a piece of galvanized stove pipe, but this stuff seemed thicker. Any ideas what they make them out of?
av8r
 
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Re: Grate blocker for lighting

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Sat Apr 05, 2014 11:11 am

av8r wrote:My LL stoker came with a U shaped piece of steel (springy) that you used to hold the coal and cowboy charcoal on the grate when lighting the stove. Mine is melted to an unusable piece of slag and I'd like another. I suppose I could use a piece of galvanized stove pipe, but this stuff seemed thicker. Any ideas what they make them out of?



I do. :)









its just 18ga or20ga steel then rolled.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Leisure Line WL110
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Re: Grate blocker for lighting

PostBy: whistlenut On: Sat Apr 05, 2014 11:36 am

If you don't have any 18 or 20 gauge handy, cutting a bunch of 24 or 26 gauge galvie or black pipe will work in the same way. Yes, the edges are sharp, so use some common sense.
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Re: Grate blocker for lighting

PostBy: Pocono Pete On: Sat Apr 05, 2014 12:34 pm

The fellow who installed my Alaska Channing showed me how to cut piece of cardboard about 3/4" wide and about 6 3/4 long and use that as a bridge. It holds the coal and the mouse I use over the holes on the grate until the fire gets going and then it gets pushed into the ash pan. The size you would use would depend on the size of your grate but you don't have to go looking for the bridge when you empty the ash pan the first time. This has been working well for me.
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Re: Grate blocker for lighting

PostBy: whistlenut On: Sat Apr 05, 2014 1:12 pm

Never tried cardboard......clever ole folks.......why not. No burned hands or arms to retrieve the steel.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: AA130's,260's, AHS130&260's,EFM900,GJ&VanWert
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Coal Size/Type: Rice,Buck,Pea,Nut&Stove
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Re: Grate blocker for lighting

PostBy: coalkirk On: Sat Apr 05, 2014 1:34 pm

Try this. Works very well, really no cost as long as you eat the tomatoes, peaches, etc that come in cans like this. It lights the coal like a rocket engine.
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Cut the top and bottom out of a can and use a church key to make holes around the bottom.
Put a couple of small pieces of crumbled news paper in the bottom, little cowboy charcoal or small dry pieces of oak then coal on top. Sit it on the grate, stick a match through one of the holes in the side, close the door and turn on the combustion fan. Within a couple minutes you've got flames shooting out the top that looks like a rocket engine. Sprinkle alittle more coal on top, wait a couple more minutes then dump the can on the grate with a pair of tongs or fire tender gloves and you are off the races.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: Harman VF3000
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Re: Grate blocker for lighting

PostBy: Rob R. On: Sat Apr 05, 2014 1:49 pm

Nice tutorial.
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Re: Grate blocker for lighting

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:22 pm

I use either paint paddles or buy a pack of door/window shims.

Same principle as the cardboard but lasts a tad longer. Paint paddles I get for free from my local auto paint store. Although the wife bitches about me using them for the stove.......

However a pack of shims is also relatively cheap. Cut them just a smidge longer than the width of the burn gate. Wedge them in place. Then use cowboy charcoal and a little coal to get the burner going.



Rick
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Re: Grate blocker for lighting

PostBy: av8r On: Sat Apr 05, 2014 7:53 pm

The last couple times I use door shims, but I like the steel. I have a big selection of sheet in the shop so I'll make something up. I think instead of rolling it I'll use some 18" and put 90 degree bends on the ends so it stands up on it's own and the 1/8 ought to last the rest of my life.

thanks to all

Rick 386 wrote:I use either paint paddles or buy a pack of door/window shims.

Same principle as the cardboard but lasts a tad longer. Paint paddles I get for free from my local auto paint store. Although the wife bitches about me using them for the stove.......

However a pack of shims is also relatively cheap. Cut them just a smidge longer than the width of the burn gate. Wedge them in place. Then use cowboy charcoal and a little coal to get the burner going.



Rick
av8r
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Leisure Line Hearth with twin turbos (sounds like it)
Stove/Furnace Make: Leisure Line
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