Boiler is on order

Re: Boiler is on order

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:14 pm

[quote="Rob R."]Pallet of bagged coal is about 4' square.[/quote]

Thanks Rob, I thought I was the only one that saw "bagged ton's. My thinking is 4 x 4 x 4 = 64 cubic ft/ton approx :)
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Re: Boiler is on order

PostBy: ShawnTRD On: Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:28 pm

My thread has turned into a math war. :?
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Re: Boiler is on order

PostBy: Wood'nCoal On: Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:44 pm

ShawnTRD wrote:My thread has turned into a math war. :?


Apparently!!
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Re: Boiler is on order

PostBy: Lightning On: Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:07 pm

ShawnTRD wrote:My thread has turned into a math war. :?


Haha... Don't worry Bro. Things are thinning out around here a little bit it I'm thinkin. Seems to be the trend this time of year. Active threads have gone from 9 pages down to 4 (earlier today) pickins are slimmin lol..

At any rate, allow 40 cubic feet per ton for bulk (seems to be the general rule) when you build yer bin. That way if you have some wiggle room for a little extra.. :D
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Re: Boiler is on order

PostBy: ShawnTRD On: Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:18 pm

Lightning wrote: At any rate, allow 40 cubic feet per ton for bulk (seems to be the general rule) when you build yer bin. That way if you have some wiggle room for a little extra.. :D


Yeah but I'm going to try 50 lbs bags for the first year. I need to call the dealer and see if they will be delivering my 4 ton on 1 ton skids. Or if I have to stack then on my own skids. And if so how big the skids need to be.
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Re: Boiler is on order

PostBy: Lightning On: Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:21 pm

ShawnTRD wrote:Yeah but I'm going to try 50 lbs bags for the first year. I need to call the dealer and see if they will be delivering my 4 ton on 1 ton skids. Or if I have to stack then on my own skids. And if so how big the skids need to be.
Yeah, I dunno about the skids.. But wouldn't the savings on bulk be worth making a bin for?
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Re: Boiler is on order

PostBy: ShawnTRD On: Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:07 pm

Looking at the price sheet today doesn't seem to be. Plus I think they're going to deliver the coal with the stove at no extra charge.
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Re: Boiler is on order

PostBy: ShawnTRD On: Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:24 pm

Plus I have to remove and fix the deck that the bin would/will going under
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Re: Boiler is on order

PostBy: tsb On: Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:24 pm

Shawn,

Welcome to the board. Fill out some more of your member information.
like location, so we can all come over and watch the installation. And remember,
If you don't post pictures, it didn't happen. If your wife is warm next winter,
she won't give a rat's ass how much coal is in a five gallon bucket.
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Re: Boiler is on order

PostBy: ShawnTRD On: Sat Apr 05, 2014 10:43 pm

See it did happen. . :D
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Re: Boiler is on order

PostBy: Lightning On: Sat Apr 05, 2014 11:07 pm

ShawnTRD wrote:Looking at the price sheet today doesn't seem to be. Plus I think they're going to deliver the coal with the stove at no extra charge.

Normally, bagged coal is 20-30% more than bulk coal.
It might be wise to check into it.. :)
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Re: Boiler is on order

PostBy: ShawnTRD On: Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:00 pm

Does the KA6 lose much effencey if in a cold garage? My garage is under the house, and is well insulated. It's also heated from the return baseboard heat, but the door are not the greatest and loses a lot of heat through them. I need to get need molding for around the doors to seal the up. But with the KA6 being insulated will hold the heat ok compared to a regular basement.
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Re: Boiler is on order

PostBy: Freddy On: Sun Apr 06, 2014 2:49 pm

Congrats on the new boiler. You're going to enjoy the heat and the savings. *smile*

Stack the bags to make a 6 foot by 6 foot square on the floor.... you'll have 4 ton before it hits the ceiling.
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Re: Boiler is on order

PostBy: lzaharis On: Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:08 pm

ShawnTRD wrote:
Does the KA6 lose much efficiency if in a cold garage?

My garage is under the house, and is well insulated.

It's also heated from the return baseboard heat,
but the door are not the greatest and loses a lot
of heat through them.

I need to get need molding for around the doors to
seal them up.

But with the KA6 being insulated will hold the heat ok
compared to a regular basement.





Please reassure us you are not putting it in with an automobile????????????

Thats a big no no





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You can have them install the insulation in the top to cover the boiler crown.


The KA6 is going to lose some heat if the top of the boiler
under the sheet metal covers is still uninsulated.


The issue is simply how much heat you will lose from the
piping exiting and entering the boiler and whether is you
want to insulate them with pipe insulation OR really need to.


Any heat being lost from the boiler in the basement will
rise and heat the floor above if the joists are not insulated.

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The new side and top trim flaps/gasketing and a new rubber base gasket
on the bottom of the base panel should help a lot.

The other issue is how the overhead door set with the header plate and whether
the top panel sits flush with the top edge of the header.

If you have the old homasote overhead or thin plywood doors
it may be worth your while to replace it with a metal overhead
door and install the blue board insulation strips as they are
designed to have the blue insulation boards installed in them.


I am not trying to spend your money shawn I just want you to suceed.
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Re: Boiler is on order

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:27 pm

Congrats on your New Boiler! This is the time of year to start gently massaging that little Heat Maker into place and get your Hydronics worked out well in advance of "Crunch Time". Good Show! Not only has this Thread turned into a "Cypherin' Festival",it's Hit The Skids,too! :doh: :rofl: :bang:
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