Newbie looking for help with placement picking a unit.

Newbie looking for help with placement picking a unit.

PostBy: Jfreethy On: Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:00 am

Hello everyone.

Currently i heat with pellets, lp(fireplace), and some electic baseboard. I would love to get back to coal. My dad has a van wert and i loved it. My house has a poor layout for simple convection air currents. I have attached a very rough layout of my house. But i have no chimney, no ductwork, and no room gor a boiler. I was looking at the keystoker koker lit 105k. Any opinion are welcome.
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Jfreethy
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystone Koker Lite
Coal Size/Type: Oiled Rice
Other Heating: propane, and electric

Re: Newbie looking for help with placement picking a unit.

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:13 am

We need a little more info here.

In your profile you mention propain. Is that the main heating system for the house ??
You show 8 x 14 ductwork in your diagram. Is that for a propain furnace ??
If you have a propain furnace, how is that vented ??
Is the ductwork already in the house and in every room ??


If yes to the above questions, you could tie a stoker into the existing propain furnace ductwork. Then the propain fan would distribute the heat from the stoker throughout the house. The stoker could be hooked up to a power vent depending on location.


Or you could remove the propain furnace and replace it with a coal burning furnace.


Or if you do have adequate existing ductwork, you could install a coal boiler outside in an out building and utilize a water to air heat exchanger and insert that in the ductwork. Additional benefit would be the ability to also make domestic hot water.


Way too many options without additional information.



Rick
Rick 386
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AA 260 heating both sides of twin farmhouse
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL Hyfire II w/ coaltrol in garage
Coal Size/Type: Pea in AA 260, Rice in LL Hyfire II
Other Heating: Gas fired infared at work

Re: Newbie looking for help with placement picking a unit.

PostBy: Jfreethy On: Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:20 am

Rick,
I have a propain gas fireplace in my family room
and it is vented directly outside. No ductwork at all. Its a 1700sqftpropain bi-leve. Sorry for the confusion. The ductwork listed for the lower level was where i had thought about putting the koker which has a 8x14 plenum.
Jfreethy
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystone Koker Lite
Coal Size/Type: Oiled Rice
Other Heating: propane, and electric

Visit Lehigh Anthracite

Re: Newbie looking for help with placement picking a unit.

PostBy: Rick 386 On: Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:30 am

So basically your house is heated right now by electric baseboards ???

You might want to check out this thread already started : How do I heat a Split Level Home??



Rick
Rick 386
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: AA 260 heating both sides of twin farmhouse
Hot Air Coal Stoker Stove: LL Hyfire II w/ coaltrol in garage
Coal Size/Type: Pea in AA 260, Rice in LL Hyfire II
Other Heating: Gas fired infared at work

Re: Newbie looking for help with placement picking a unit.

PostBy: Jfreethy On: Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:37 am

My pellet stove is on the lower level which heats all the rooms except my family room where my lp fireplace is.The pellet stove did a decent job just poor room balance and cost to much. This year i went through about 7tons of pellets and 300gals of lp. We keep the house around 73-75 with are little one.
Jfreethy
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystone Koker Lite
Coal Size/Type: Oiled Rice
Other Heating: propane, and electric

Re: Newbie looking for help with placement picking a unit.

PostBy: Lightning On: Tue Apr 08, 2014 4:37 pm

HI JFree.. No basement at all?
Lightning
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1537G
Coal Size/Type: Nut/Stove Size Mix

Re: Newbie looking for help with placement picking a unit.

PostBy: Jfreethy On: Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:11 pm

My first attachment shows my basement. Its just a single rom and my utility room that also has my laundry.
Jfreethy
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystone Koker Lite
Coal Size/Type: Oiled Rice
Other Heating: propane, and electric

Re: Newbie looking for help with placement picking a unit.

PostBy: Lightning On: Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:31 pm

In my opinion, your best option would be to get a furnace or boiler into the basement somehow. Even if it means relocating your laundry appliances upstairs somewhere to make room for it. That way you can run duct work or plumbing for your new appliance easy AND any lost heat from the appliance will keep your basement warm and also help warm the floors on the first floor. I know what its like to use a pellet insert, propain and electric. I did the same before the coal furnace.

You can continue to use the pellet stove during cool months before and after winter.

If you have a limited budget, a coal forced air furnace and duct work can be done relatively easy and cheap. If you have the budget for a boiler, it would probably be a little more comfortable. You can find nice units on Craig's list.. Just watch and be patient for the right opportunity.

You got all summer to make it happen.
Right now is the perfect time to figure it out.. :D
Lightning
 
Hand Fed Coal Furnace: Clayton 1537G
Coal Size/Type: Nut/Stove Size Mix

Re: Newbie looking for help with placement picking a unit.

PostBy: Jfreethy On: Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:52 pm

My game plan was to put a coal furnace in my lower level where my pellet stove is. I dont think i have enoigh room for a boiler. A furnace is more in my budgets currently. I would have to find something that could be powervented too. That is why i mentioned the koker lite.
Jfreethy
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystone Koker Lite
Coal Size/Type: Oiled Rice
Other Heating: propane, and electric

Re: Newbie looking for help with placement picking a unit.

PostBy: PRengert On: Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:46 am

If it was me I would look at the Keystoker Kaa-2 boiler - it's quite small and pipes take a lot less room than ductwork. It is available with a direct vent.
PRengert
 
Stoker Coal Boiler: Keystoker K6

Re: Newbie looking for help with placement picking a unit.

PostBy: Jfreethy On: Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:55 am

A boiler might be out of my price point. And thre space im working with is kinda small. But ill keep an eye out for a deal.
Jfreethy
 
Hot Air Coal Stoker Furnace: Keystone Koker Lite
Coal Size/Type: Oiled Rice
Other Heating: propane, and electric

Visit Lehigh Anthracite