Coal Ash disposal restrictions?

Coal Ash disposal restrictions?

PostBy: mariohotshot On: Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:00 pm

I have been using coal ash as land fill on my property. I use it as a base, then add crushed gravel on top as a finish. I was notified by the board comitee where I live, that I will be fined by them and by waste management if I continue. I am shocked that they are putting restrictions on coal disposal on my own property. Anyone know where this is written as illegal?
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Re: Coal Ash disposal restrictions?

PostBy: whistlenut On: Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:09 pm

Unusual request and/or regulation. Please provide more info. Are you in a 'gated community'? This is waaaaaaaaay past anything I've ever heard of.....anywhere. Are you Bloombergs neighbor? :mad: :idea: :?: :!:
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Re: Coal Ash disposal restrictions?

PostBy: Rob R. On: Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:04 pm

Unless specifically prohibited in some sort of homeowners association rulebook for your neighborhood, I doubt they have any grounds for telling you that it can't be used for fill.

here is some light reading:

http://www.acaa-usa.org/Portals/9/Files ... ardous.pdf

http://www.acaa-usa.org/Home.aspx

A letter from your lawyer with an appropriate reference to coal ash qualifying as "clean fill" would probably silence the critics. If not, you could do all your ash hauling in the dark. :)
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Re: Coal Ash disposal restrictions?

PostBy: NJJoe On: Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:18 pm

How did they find out about the ash?
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Re: Coal Ash disposal restrictions?

PostBy: Lightning On: Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:13 pm

NJJoe wrote:How did they find out about the ash?

Did a neighbor report to the board committee that you were using the ash for fill??
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Re: Coal Ash disposal restrictions?

PostBy: Berlin On: Wed Apr 16, 2014 4:11 pm

yet another reason to NOT tell anyone that you do anything with coal. All it takes is one crazy and you're going to have problems.

- let me clarify. I believe in propagandizing as much as possible with truthful pro-coal information, however, not to one's neighbors. Anyone that lives next to you, can create problems for you at your home, should NEVER know your business.
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Re: Coal Ash disposal restrictions?

PostBy: carlherrnstein On: Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:33 am

Sadly there is a stigma attached to coal and some people are literally afraid of it.

People have told me its dirty, sooty, dusty, unhealthy, and radioactive. I would think that they have no grounds unless you are dumping tons of ash.
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Re: Coal Ash disposal restrictions?

PostBy: mariohotshot On: Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:30 am

Yes, I'm in a gated community. This was in their news letter to all the homeowners. It wasn't addressed directly to me. I guess more homeowners are using coal. This restriction is not written in the community manual, but they always add and update their rules. Do they have enough proof that coal ash is hazardous? Can I be fined by enviornment authorities? This is buming me out :(
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Re: Coal Ash disposal restrictions?

PostBy: Carbon12 On: Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:32 am

I'd first ask them why this new regulation to see where they're coming from. Also, ask if they have the same regulation for wood ash.
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Re: Coal Ash disposal restrictions?

PostBy: NJJoe On: Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:19 am

mariohotshot wrote:Yes, I'm in a gated community. This was in their news letter to all the homeowners. It wasn't addressed directly to me. I guess more homeowners are using coal. This restriction is not written in the community manual, but they always add and update their rules. Do they have enough proof that coal ash is hazardous? Can I be fined by enviornment authorities? This is buming me out :(


Id just continue what you are doing. If someone sees you pushing a wheelbarrow of "fill", they are not going to know it is coal ash.

I'd also stop mentioning to anyone around that you are burning coal. My $0.02
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Re: Coal Ash disposal restrictions?

PostBy: whistlenut On: Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:16 am

I do a lot of service work in a couple gated condo places......hence my question, yesterday. Walk softly.......and keep that big stick under you topcoat.

Pointy Heads are everywhere......and the new 50 mil campaign should be on your desktop right now.......Blumberg/Everytown no gun folks. :mad: :mad: :sick: :sick: :!:
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Re: Coal Ash disposal restrictions?

PostBy: mariohotshot On: Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:18 pm

NJJoe wrote:I'd also stop mentioning to anyone around that you are burning coal. My $0.02


Great advice. Maybe they are monitoring coal delivery trucks.
Everyone has to register before entering our community.
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Re: Coal Ash disposal restrictions?

PostBy: tjnamtiw On: Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:26 pm

The best advice is to stay the heck out of gated communities! They are run by a few Gestapo wannabe's looking to grow their ego's even larger than they already are. Move to the country, buy plenty of barb wire, and no trespassing signs!
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Re: Coal Ash disposal restrictions?

PostBy: mariohotshot On: Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:32 pm

tjnamtiw wrote:The best advice is to stay the heck out of gated communities! They are run by a few Gestapo wannabe's looking to grow their ego's even larger than they already are. Move to the country, buy plenty of barb wire, and no trespassing signs!

I agree totally! For $1700 a year I get rules, restrictions and fines! I just have to convince my wife.
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Re: Coal Ash disposal restrictions?

PostBy: Kennebago On: Thu Apr 17, 2014 4:44 pm

I am not a lawyer or anything close to that but I am interested in the specifics of what you were told. You mentioned that the "announcement" was in the association news letter. Would you be willing to post from the news letter, the exact sentence that says you will be fined if you dump your coal ashes on your property. I can't do much to help but I think it would be helpful to know exactly the words that were used to tell you this, and also whether an explanation was offered as to why they are warning you of this.

Jerry
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