Is there still a mine in Mt Carmel?

Is there still a mine in Mt Carmel?

PostBy: Carbondale On: Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:43 pm

Hi Guys

I've read that the Harmony mine is closed. Is this true? If so is it running under another name? Is there a place in that area where people can still pick up trailer loads of coal?

When do the mines usually make rice coal?


Thanks in advance
Last edited by Carbondale on Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: Is there still a mine in Mt Carmel?

PostBy: blrman07 On: Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:12 pm

The Harmony Mine was purchased and selling all size coal at the same site. It's not deep mined coal but a mix of strip mined coal. It burns good, a whiteish ash, and has a higher ash contents. Last I heard it was $170 a ton bulk.

Rev. Larry
New Beginning Church
Ashland Pa.
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Re: Is there still a mine in Mt Carmel?

PostBy: Carbondale On: Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:18 pm

Thanks for the reply

Do you know who bought it so that I can look up the phone number? Unless of course someone on the board has the number??

Is deep mined coal better than stripped?
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Re: Is there still a mine in Mt Carmel?

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:16 pm

uae coal mine out of buisness

This ought to start getting you something to read. Type in UAE Harmony in the google custom search bar in the upper right corner for more-Piece Of Cake..
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Re: Is there still a mine in Mt Carmel?

PostBy: fifthg On: Fri Apr 18, 2014 7:18 am

Carbondale wrote:Is deep mined coal better than stripped?

It is a myth that deep mined coal is better than strip mined coal.It is the same coal,(but some veins are better than others.)Very shallow,say less than 30' deep coal,has been oxidized,or decomposed by exposure to oxygen and water,and is referred to as outcrop or croppy coal.That might even be called crappy.This croppy stuff is discarded at mine site although any that gets to prep plant can't,for the most part,survive the rigorous cleaning process,and is discarded there into the silt dams with other very fine refuse.At any rate,once you get deeper than the croppy coal,there is very little difference in the coal vein itself.It is really no deeper than that.
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Re: Is there still a mine in Mt Carmel?

PostBy: blrman07 On: Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:01 am

fifthg wrote:
Carbondale wrote:Is deep mined coal better than stripped?

It is a myth that deep mined coal is better than strip mined coal.It is the same coal,(but some veins are better than others.)Very shallow,say less than 30' deep coal,has been oxidized,or decomposed by exposure to oxygen and water,and is referred to as outcrop or croppy coal.That might even be called crappy.This croppy stuff is discarded at mine site although any that gets to prep plant can't,for the most part,survive the rigorous cleaning process,and is discarded there into the silt dams with other very fine refuse.At any rate,once you get deeper than the croppy coal,there is very little difference in the coal vein itself.It is really no deeper than that.


I have to apologize off the start to a fellow Skook. Please don't take this as a challenge but I never heard of the oxidation of anthracite coal by being exposed to oxygen and water. I googled it but found all references to oxidation being cited for Bit coal. It appears to be a common thing with some lower grades of Bit but I couldn't find any reference for Anthracite coal. Could you please point me to some publications so I can read up on this?

Rev. Larry
New Beginning Church
Ashland Pa.
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Re: Is there still a mine in Mt Carmel?

PostBy: fifthg On: Fri Apr 18, 2014 10:25 am

Sorry,I can't name a publication off the top of my head,but many mistakenly believe outrop is coal that is soft because it was not subjected to the pressure of deeper coal.However,all the veins were laid down or started as swampy bogs,which of course were level 200 million years ago.It was tectonics and the push on the plates that caused the folding and thrusting of the anthracite fields.Wherever the vein was exposed to the elements,it decomposed into outcrop.
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