Radioactive oil waste

Radioactive oil waste

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Apr 25, 2014 12:32 pm

Now in cases like this who should be at fault, the driver that is told to get rid of this, the rig operators (who I would suspect) have to have some type of record of proper disposal, or the oil companies who should be overseeing the whole operation? I would tend to go for all three & possibly more if they knew.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/north-dak ... nance.html
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Re: Radioactive oil waste

PostBy: oros35 On: Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:48 pm

EPA for making everyone scared of radiation. And whoever makes the cost of dealing with this stuff out of control.

This is all naturally occurring radiation, very low level. The only way it would be harmful is if you stacked a bunch of them up and put them under your bed for the next 20 years.

But since it is scary stuff, the cost is out of control. Disposal price for low level waste is $3-5 per pound, plus transportation costs and costs to pay qualified people. In the end we are paying millions to dispose of this scary dirt. (and I mean WE since your paying for it in your energy bills)
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Re: Radioactive oil waste

PostBy: Richard S. On: Fri Apr 25, 2014 1:50 pm

I don't know enough about it to say who needs to be faulted. There is certainly reasons all three could be to be blame or a single entity.

This was huge problem back in the 80's here and it's till a problem. There was gas station toughly 5 miles from the river. They had a borehole going down into the mines and they were dumping toxic waste down it for years from all kinds or huge companies like Kodak which is one I remember. It eventually made it's way to the Butler mine tunnel which drains water from the mines into the river to this day. There was big rain storm and they found a big slick on the river. It was across the river from where I lived and all though my teens they had those oil booms in place. It's no where near as bad it was but it's still an issue during the heaviest rains.
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Re: Radioactive oil waste

PostBy: samhill On: Fri Apr 25, 2014 2:05 pm

Richard, I found more about the same radioactive waste problem here in Pa.
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-n ... 41/?no-ist
I'm beginning to believe this is a industry wide problem, I was told the reason there is so much winter usage of brine on the roads is that it's the waste from the drillers (still trying to find out for sure & if it's somehow filtered from other elements).
The problem with the first link is that besides being radioactive if it is somehow captured in filter bags it would be more concentrated IMO. It's a shame that for pure profit they just may be ruining not only wells but sporting & agriculture as well. Even if not hazardous it's still illegal dumping & disposing of materials.
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Re: Radioactive oil waste

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sat Apr 26, 2014 6:35 am

samhill wrote:Richard, I found more about the same radioactive waste problem here in Pa.


Sam the story I mentioned I don't recall anything about radioactive waste, this was just nasty *censored*.

As already mentioned you have to be careful about anything being labeled radioactive, everything is radioactive. You are surrounded by radioactivity, RUN! Perhaps it's a concern and perhaps it's irrelevant in the grand scheme of things and I have no trust that anyone in the media is going to get the story straight or will even attempt to get it straight. They hear radioactive and they are gong to run with it, it may be no more dangerous than getting an x-ray once in your life.

Coal ash is more radioactive than nuclear waste. :o If you read this headline and the way this article is constructed you would think we should all be glowing in the dark and that's the intention. This is supposed to be a well respected scientific publication intended for consumption by the general public.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/artic ... ear-waste/

Now skip to the end and read the addendum that was added a year after that article was published.
*Editor's Note (posted 12/30/08): In response to some concerns raised by readers, a change has been made to this story. The sentence marked with an asterisk was changed from "In fact, fly ash—a by-product from burning coal for power—and other coal waste contains up to 100 times more radiation than nuclear waste" to "In fact, the fly ash emitted by a power plant—a by-product from burning coal for electricity—carries into the surrounding environment 100 times more radiation than a nuclear power plant producing the same amount of energy." Our source for this statistic is Dana Christensen, an associate lab director for energy and engineering at Oak Ridge National Laboratory as well as 1978 paper in Science authored by J.P. McBride and colleagues, also of ORNL.

As a general clarification, ounce for ounce, coal ash released from a power plant delivers more radiation than nuclear waste shielded via water or dry cask storage.
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Re: Radioactive oil waste

PostBy: samhill On: Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:12 am

Richard, I wasn't trying to link the two just bringing Pa. into the problem as well, I agree that some forms of radiation are everywhere & almost constant. I did however run across an article that I somehow lost but anyhow it was about some studies that were being done & a side result of radioactivity flowing into & then out of old coal mines were greatly decreased or totally gone, don't know if it was somehow neutralized or just left captured & once again concentrated, I'll try & find it again.
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Re: Radioactive oil waste

PostBy: carlherrnstein On: Sat Apr 26, 2014 11:53 am

Alpha radiation is very common in nature in tiny amounts and its not really a issue. Uranium, radon, and many other elements decay an emit alpha radiation its not really a problem unless you eat or breath in a dust that contains a alpha emitter because the radiation that comes off it comes directly in contact with living tissue. Alpha radiation is made up of relatively large slow moving particles and they are stopped by a few inches of air or the layer of dead skin cells on your body.
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Re: Radioactive oil waste

PostBy: davidmcbeth3 On: Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:26 pm

That respirator is protecting you from radiation dude !

hahahaha
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Re: Radioactive oil waste

PostBy: Richard S. On: Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:12 am

davidmcbeth3 wrote:That respirator is protecting you from radiation dude !

hahahaha


Actually in this case it would because the big concern with something like this would be the fine particles of radioactive dust you might breathe in. ;)
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