Fatal Motorcycle Accident

Fatal Motorcycle Accident

PostBy: Lightning On: Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:12 am

Anyone hear about this?

http://www.bradfordera.com/news/article ... f887a.html

I worked with Ray, the driver of the motorcycle. We loaded bread at the same depot. He had recently lost his job, for reasons of his own choices (I'll leave it at that). His son also has a bread route, I continue to load bread beside him. His Mom (Jeanie), who was killed in the accident was a wonderful woman. I knew her. Her and her husband Ray are part of the same motorcycle group with my Mom and Step Dad. Her and my Mom were close friends. Jeanie and Ray often came out to see my band play.

You may remember a thread for my birthday. My Mom and Step Dad worked a fish fry at a legion where we went for dinner. Jeanie and Ray were there. Jeanie brought out our fish fries and attended our table. Later that evening I talked to Ray about his recent job loss. Jeanie gave me hug for being supportive of her hausband. That's my last memory of her. My Mom is devastated as many lives are, by this tragic loss.

Yesterday I approached her son at the bread depot and shook his hand and said, "I feel bad for what you are going thru... If there is anything I can do.." at that point I was overwhelmed with emotion. I can't imagine being in his shoes.

Sorry for the emotional post, please don't drink and drive. Someday the luck runs out, and its all over but the cryin.. :(
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Re: Fatal Motorcycle Accident

PostBy: SMITTY On: Wed Apr 30, 2014 10:42 am

I hate reading about bike accidents. It's even worse when it was completely preventable. I agree on the boozin' and riding thing. NOT good. That's one thing I NEVER liked doing, even in my younger days. You need 100% attention out there. Even if I'm not feeling 100%, I'll leave the bike in the barn.

Sorry to hear about this Lightning. :(
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Re: Fatal Motorcycle Accident

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Wed Apr 30, 2014 11:51 am

Sorry to hear that Lee.

Same here about the bikes and safety. Doesn't even need the drink to happen. Every person I know who road, or still rides, and I know quite few has had at least one serious accent and no drinking was involved in any of them. Seems it's so common that it's not a matter of if, but when.

Almost lost the step son two years ago to a guard rail after he lost control hitting a small piece of loose pavement in a turn and was thrown 20 feet down into a ravine breaking his back.

Seems the weeks of screaming pain were quickly forgotten. Soon as he healed up he got another bike. If only he could see what that does to his mother everytime she hears that bike start up. We're dreading the day we get that next call.

And I know what it's going to be like. I've already had to make two trips to the county morgue to identify loved ones killed in vehicle accidents. That's two trips too many !

Paul
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Re: Fatal Motorcycle Accident

PostBy: SMITTY On: Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:00 pm

I don't believe that one bit. Every accident is preventable - you got to be alert 100% of the time - no if, and's or but's about it.

I've been riding dirtbikes for 30 years, and street for 25. Only had one crash, and I can tell you exactly why it happened.

#1, I was hungover, and shouldn't have been out there to begin with - I gave into peer pressure. #2, I was LONG overdue on a front tire. Shouldn't have even gone out on that tire, let alone race around at the speeds we were hitting that day. My experience riding saved my life that day - could've been MUCH worse.
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Re: Fatal Motorcycle Accident

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Wed Apr 30, 2014 12:42 pm

Horrible news my friend and knowing those involved makes it worse :(
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Re: Fatal Motorcycle Accident

PostBy: Lightning On: Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:11 pm

Thanks for the kind words fellas.. Personally, I don't see me getting a bike anytime soon. We have short people (kids) that need us, I don't see it worth the risk. Sure, one can say don't live afraid but at the same time why up the anti? I mean, unless its something you really love to do.

I agree with both views, that accidents are preventable, well most of the time (considering the dummy that just rolled out in front of you). The problem with bikes is you don't have the mass to help you thru an impact or the steel around you to protect you. So, usually the result is serious injury if there is an accident.
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Re: Fatal Motorcycle Accident

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:22 pm

SMITTY wrote:I don't believe that one bit. Every accident is preventable - you got to be alert 100% of the time - no if, and's or but's about it.

I've been riding dirtbikes for 30 years, and street for 25. Only had one crash, and I can tell you exactly why it happened.

#1, I was hungover, and shouldn't have been out there to begin with - I gave into peer pressure. #2, I was LONG overdue on a front tire. Shouldn't have even gone out on that tire, let alone race around at the speeds we were hitting that day. My experience riding saved my life that day - could've been MUCH worse.


Smitty,
Glad your being 100% alert is working for you. There are some "buts" however. Believe it or not, being 100% alert doesn't mean getting to control, or avoid, everything that can go wrong on the roads.

Up until three years ago one of my friends sounded just like you. Riding for years and avoided problems. Thought he'd always have total situational control while riding. That is, until a deer leapt out of road-side brush at full speed and suddenly landed on the front of his bike while he was doing about 55. He survived, but now he knows not all accidents are preventable no matter how alert.

With my brother's bike accident, it was a loose filler piece next to the rails at a railroad crossing that bounced up between the front wheel and frame. With the stepson it was a ride on the first nice spring day and winter frost heave damage had loosened small pieces of the roadway that gave out as he leaned into the turn.

Lee,

I've been in three accidents over the years. For all three I was stopped and couldn't do a thing to prevent someone else not being 100% alert. I was lucky that I was either in cars or a truck at the time. Had I been on a bike I doubt I would have survived any of those three.

Again, I'm sorry for your loss of your friend.

Paul
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Re: Fatal Motorcycle Accident

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Wed Apr 30, 2014 3:36 pm

Sorry to hear about this. I have first hand experience of losing someone to a motorcycle accident. Lost my half-brother many many years ago. I was only 6 when it happened but I remember that I felt I was somehow at fault and was devastated. He was struck by a drunk driver who was driving Southbound on the Northbound lane of the highway. My brother had just bought a brand new Harley Davidson and had just pulled out of the parking lot with it. Didn't even have a mile on the clock. The guy that hit him fled the scene and the police never caught him. My brother passed away as the ambulance was pulling up. I get choked up thinking about it to this day. I can only imagine what Ray's family can be going through and I feel for them. I wish I could say my prayers are with him and his family, but I'm not a religious man. My thoughts however will be.
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Re: Fatal Motorcycle Accident

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Wed Apr 30, 2014 8:56 pm

I am really sorry to hear Lee. I always hate to hear of fellow riders taking that last ride. :(
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Re: Fatal Motorcycle Accident

PostBy: Hambden Bob On: Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:13 pm

Lee,all I know is that I'm Sorry to hear and read this. A damned nightmare for the Family. Some Folks would've avoided talking to their Son,not knowing what to say.....You didn't. I do believe you helped him with Your Kind Words. Man,what a Permanent Mess....Bottom Line-It can happen to you. Live To Ride,Ride To Live :angel:
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Re: Fatal Motorcycle Accident

PostBy: WNY On: Wed Apr 30, 2014 9:48 pm

I saw that....i think I knew her or of her, she was friends with some friends of mine locally.
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Re: Fatal Motorcycle Accident

PostBy: Lightning On: Thu May 01, 2014 7:51 am

Thanks fellas, and Bob thank you for the reassurance. It was difficult but I felt the need to say something. I feel awful for the family. They have a hard road to travel.

I plan to attend the viewing this evening....
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Re: Fatal Motorcycle Accident

PostBy: Cap On: Thu May 01, 2014 7:56 pm

Sad story, that's for sure. I wonder if the cause of death was due to head injuries? Do they wear helmets? Why do I see so many HD riders without helmets? Guys on sport tourers always wear the gear. HD riders almost never wear the gear. In this state of PA anyway. Again, not trying to get on a soap box. She didn't deserve to die in what sounds like am awkward incident in a corner. Big bikes are harder to handle in the corners. Very sad.
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Re: Fatal Motorcycle Accident

PostBy: Freddy On: Fri May 02, 2014 3:02 am

Sorry to here of this sad situation. This will effect Ray for the rest of his life. So sad. I'll say a prayer to bring peace to the family.
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Re: Fatal Motorcycle Accident

PostBy: Richard S. On: Fri May 02, 2014 3:44 am

That appears to be driver error but frankly I think you'd have to be nuts to drive a motorcycle anywhere around here. Too many idiots on the road.
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