For those with a 2000 something GM product.

For those with a 2000 something GM product.

PostBy: DePippo79 On: Sat May 03, 2014 12:52 pm

So my sister called me beginning of the week and said her car is leaking something. So I took a ride and went and got her car.
Quickly looked at it in her driveway and definitely trans. fluid. Brought it home and replaced the lines. Dealer part in stock $91.00. Not bad. Also had to replace the lower radiator fitting because the line was so rusted it wouldn't pop out of the quick connector. What surprises me is the amout of corrosion. Her car is a 2006 Pontiac G6. Not even ten years old. Brake and fuel lines are still like new. I've had project cars from the early seventies with lines not even as close to this rotted. So for the hell of it I looked at the lines on my truck 04 Silverado. Not rotted, but the crimps between the rubber and steel are starting to seep. I don't know if GM had a problem with there trans. lines or if I'm just a victim of circumstance. There was a warranty claim tag on the new lines so I don't know if a recall was ever issued. Matt
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Re: For those with a 2000 something GM product.

PostBy: whistlenut On: Sat May 03, 2014 1:26 pm

The new and nasty deicing crap they use on the roads is horrible on brake and fuel lines....and the entire underneath of all vehicles. Brake lines show up first, then fuel lines, then exhaust system......meanwhile the doors fall off ....the suspension mounts, subframes, etc. If you are purchasing a used car that has been 'living in the northern tier', use caution!!!!
If you are foolish enough to think they can last 10 years, you are going to be disappointed. Keep them clean....get to know 'fluid film' and keep a can around for hinges and any parts you want to last.
This is not a GM issue more than any other. Any Dodge owner knows that you can go visit a dealership and sit quietly in the parking lot and HEAR the SOB's rusting right in from of you!
Ford has the same issue.....Hyundai, Kia, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Jeep...ALL of them. Yes, VW, Audi, Mercer...too!
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Re: For those with a 2000 something GM product.

PostBy: plumb-r On: Sat May 03, 2014 3:25 pm

I know the domestic car company's cheap out and use steel tubing but I thought the better foreign car company's used copper-nickel brake and transmission lines. Volvo, Audi, Aston Martin to name a few. The American car company's have to make every penny they can. :no1:
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Re: For those with a 2000 something GM product.

PostBy: 2001Sierra On: Sun May 04, 2014 12:52 am

[quote="whistlenut"]The new and nasty deicing crap they use on the roads is horrible on brake and fuel lines....and the entire underneath of all vehicles. Brake lines show up first, then fuel lines, then exhaust systembframes, etc. If you are purchasing a used car that has been 'living in the northern tier', use caution!!!!
If you are foolish enough to think they can last 10 years, you are going to be disappointed. Keep them clean....get to know 'fluid film' and keep a can around for hinges and any parts you want to last.

Fluid Film is my new poster child against corrosion. LPS3 is still superior but Fluid Film is friendlier, especially on the applicator, ME! LPS 3 is till used in areas I do not want to visit often. I believe LPS 3 is 1500 hour salt spray compared to Fluid Film with a 750 hour salt spray rating.
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Re: For those with a 2000 something GM product.

PostBy: whistlenut On: Sun May 04, 2014 2:26 pm

I guess I'll make the change-over. Thanks. Still a huge problem...and one can only hope all the companies will upgrade the POS mentality. :idea:
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Re: For those with a 2000 something GM product.

PostBy: SMITTY On: Sun May 04, 2014 2:47 pm

I think it is a GM/Ford/Dodge problem.

I know of 4 Volvo 940's (2 of them are here) that are all around 20 years old, and operated continuously in MA - NONE of them has had ANY work done on fuel, brake, tranny lines, nor has any of them had any body work! I've got a friend driving a '99 Toyota Camry that sat in a field for 2 years, and only has minimal rot in the trunk area - no bad lines at all, and the rest of the body is SOLID. Subaru puts all their brake and fuel lines inside the cab, plus coats all their lines like Volvo does. There's a right way, and a CHEAP way to build cars. I deal with this crap all the time. It's very aggravating.

My '07 Silverado had a rusty undercarriage after just ONE WINTER!!

The materials to build good cars are out there. GM and Ford choose not to.

When it comes to pickups, your pretty much screwed, as no foreign pickup stacks up to the load carrying capacity of the domestics. As for cars, I'll never drive a domestic again, unless it's 28 years old or older.
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Re: For those with a 2000 something GM product.

PostBy: oros35 On: Mon May 05, 2014 2:09 pm

On my 2005 Chevy 2500HD diesel, I had to replace the fuel line near the tank, rusted through. Found it's a common problem In these northern states.
Also the brake lines are known to go, 8-10 years to be expected before failure.
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Re: For those with a 2000 something GM product.

PostBy: sterling40man On: Mon May 05, 2014 4:51 pm

Had to replace my trans cooler lines 2 months ago on my '08 Sierra. Looked exactly like your pictures.
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