Help Choosing a hitzer stove for my application

Help Choosing a hitzer stove for my application

PostBy: Real1on On: Thu May 08, 2014 10:56 am

Hey guys I have been trying to navigate this wonder website for a little while now I have read that hitzer stoves seem to be a good choose by many of you guys, now I live in right smack in the middle of New York when this past winter which is just starting to end dropped to 27 below, my home is just shy of 1000sqft but I have hardwood floors through out the home and plan to keep these warm by having the stove down stairs in the basement I was looking into the 30-95 or the 50-93 which do you think would be a better option I don't want to have to run out of my house because it is so hot or be cold when the temps drop so low, I was thinking of trying to find a way to force some of the heat though my duct work any thoughts? Thanks so much guys
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Re: Help Choosing a hitzer stove for my application

PostBy: Real1on On: Thu May 08, 2014 11:35 am

I hope I posted in the right section sorry guys I'm new.
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Re: Help Choosing a hitzer stove for my application

PostBy: coalnewbie On: Thu May 08, 2014 12:20 pm

Get the 50-93, very controllable. When it's -27* overkill has a habit of becoming just right.
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Re: Help Choosing a hitzer stove for my application

PostBy: Rob R. On: Thu May 08, 2014 1:01 pm

Welcome. You posted in the right section and are considering two very nice stoves. Is the basement 1000 sq. ft as well?

The 50-93 will idle down to a very low level, so overheating the house should not be a problem. The only concern with idling a big stove is if the chimney will maintain draft with the low exhaust temperature. Can you give us the details on the chimney?
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Help Choosing a hitzer stove for my application

PostBy: Real1on On: Thu May 08, 2014 1:08 pm

It's an old brick chimney in the dead center of the house in good condition. I'm not sure what other information will help I will do my best to answer.
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Re: Help Choosing a hitzer stove for my application

PostBy: Rob R. On: Thu May 08, 2014 1:23 pm

Real1on wrote:It's an old brick chimney in the dead center of the house in good condition.


That is ideal.
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Stoker Coal Boiler: EFM DF520
Hand Fed Coal Stove: Hitzer 50-93
Other Heating: Dad's 1953 EFM Highboy

Re: Help Choosing a hitzer stove for my application

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Thu May 08, 2014 2:50 pm

Welcome grab a chair and jump in, coffee is brewed on Saturday A.M. at Freddy's and it lasts the week.
I push heat through my cold air returns with a small box stove (60,000 btu) in the basement. My 1100 sq. ft. basement is not insulated so there is a considerable loss. Is your basement insulated? My situation is great until the temps dip below 25* then I fire up the stove in the living room and shut down the basement stove.
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Re: Help Choosing a hitzer stove for my application

PostBy: Lightning On: Thu May 08, 2014 4:19 pm

Some food for thought...If you have duct work in place, how about a hand fed forced air furnace? I use a Clayton, its like a Hot Blast, although I wouldn't recommend one of those models that use the axial inline grates like mine. Other models have a better grate system..
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Re: Help Choosing a hitzer stove for my application

PostBy: Real1on On: Thu May 08, 2014 5:20 pm

Oh wow pictures and all love it that is exactly what I was planning on doing, and yes the basment is insulated but I was planing on pulling that down if I was going to heat the basement and let the heat rise and warm my floors. But this gives me more to think about thanks guys your feedback is great! Forced air furnace I was thinking about as well my uncle has the hitzer 82 model and he heats about 3500sqft but that's all new building I feed like that thing would kill me
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Re: Help Choosing a hitzer stove for my application

PostBy: michaelanthony On: Thu May 08, 2014 5:44 pm

My basement walls are cinder block and that's where I loose guessing 50% of the heat but the floors are warm, no insulation between the floor joists. The blower on the stove pushes very warm air through all the return vents, if it went through the heat vents and the furnace came on the two air currents would run into each other. By using the return vents the air is preheated if the furnace came on and would not run for very long. If I put rigid insulation on my basement walls (about 500.00 bucks) I would get better results. It's all about having the money at the right time. I bought a second hand Vigilant 2310 and have that in my living room and now can't find a reason to insulate the basement walls. Having a small ranch style home has it's benefits! :)
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Hand Fed Coal Stove: Vigilant 2310, gold marc box, vogelzang pot belly coat rack
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Other Heating: Very cold FHA oil furnace

Re: Help Choosing a hitzer stove for my application

PostBy: davidmcbeth3 On: Thu May 08, 2014 8:20 pm

I heat my 2400 sq ft house with a 503 ... I think that the 30-95 will do the job for 1000 sq ft house.
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Coal Size/Type: nut/pea/anthra
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Re: Help Choosing a hitzer stove for my application

PostBy: Real1on On: Thu May 08, 2014 11:28 pm

Ok yea basement wall insulation makes more sense brick is a horrible insulator. Thanks for all your feed back it has been very helpful! Are there any negative affects idling a large stove?
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Re: Help Choosing a hitzer stove for my application

PostBy: franco b On: Fri May 09, 2014 10:59 am

Real1on wrote:Are there any negative affects idling a large stove?

Negative effects are uneven burn and not burning carbon monoxide produced by such low temperatures. Fire pot designs that keep heat in the pot work best.
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Re: Help Choosing a hitzer stove for my application

PostBy: davidmcbeth3 On: Fri May 09, 2014 2:33 pm

Real1on wrote:Ok yea basement wall insulation makes more sense brick is a horrible insulator. Thanks for all your feed back it has been very helpful! Are there any negative affects idling a large stove?


Not that I have seen ... I put-put-put mine routinely during 50-60 degree weather.

We'll wanna see pics :)
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Coal Size/Type: nut/pea/anthra
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Stove/Furnace Model: 503

Re: Help Choosing a hitzer stove for my application

PostBy: Lightning On: Fri May 09, 2014 7:14 pm

Real1on wrote:Ok yea basement wall insulation makes more sense brick is a horrible insulator. Thanks for all your feed back it has been very helpful! Are there any negative affects idling a large stove?


Like franco b said, the coal doesn't burn "quite" as efficiently and it may be more of a challenge to maintain sufficient draft in warm weather burns BUT, your central chimney will make up for the drafting issue. Some minor inefficiency during warm weather burns isn't a valid reason, as far as I'm concerned, not to have a stove that might be on the hefty side for the job. When its 10 below zero and yer warm as toast, the thougth of inefficiency during warm weather will probably make ya giggle a little bit.. :lol:

Unlike wood, no creosote associated with anthracite..

Coal is good at idling down, once you learn the burn.
I'd go with the slightly oversized instead of a possible undersize..
Just my nickle's worth of free thinkering.. :)
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