SMITTY wrote:I like the 870 for the same reason I love cars built before '72 - simplicity, and the reliability of a stone ax.
As mentioned, there are different variations of the 870, but the basic action is all the same. There's billions of them around, and they're affordable (for the most part) - another reason to love them. Also why I love the 1911. I carry a 3" version of one, with a doublestacked mag of .45 ACP.
Yeah, NJ's gun laws make liberal Massachusetts' gun laws seem like the wild west, if you can believe that one! We used to be the worst in the nation - not anymore! Seems NY & CT are duking it out to overtake NJ in who can trample citizens' Second Amendment rights the most ...
I have an 870 Express. It's been slightly modified ....
KLook wrote:Awesome....and here is my .02 cents worth. I grew up with an 870 Wingmaster and my uncles and extended family had them as well. Old ones generally . They are the finest shotgun made since the Model 12 Winchester for durability and reliability. Some of the new Benelli's and such are probably better, but you don't need a Porsche, just a working mans shotgun.
I have heard many stories about problems with Taurus. I can't however verify or quantify those concerns. When I purchased it was a Springfield XD45C and a Keltec PF-9. Both are superb. I admire the 1911's for the history and quality that is put into them, they are a design years ahead of their time. But time moves on and I don't want 5 safeties, and a heavy steel gun. Not to mention the cost. I will eventually own a Kimber 1911 just because I like superb weapons, but it won't be my go to gun. It will be a treasure.
Just be sure to get something that fits your hand, get it in a size you can handle, and practice with it.
Have fun selecting!!!
Flyer5 wrote:Just in time too. http://news.yahoo.com/jersey-gun-contro ... nance.html
o do like the Wingmaster but I'm not looking for a 22"+ barrel;
KLook wrote:o do like the Wingmaster but I'm not looking for a 22"+ barrel;
Yes, yes, I am sorry...but the action is the critical thing and they are the same no matter what 870 you get. I like the older guns as they have been "worn" in and yes you can add barrels and accessories like Smitty has. You might save money buying an old used shotgun and then putting the things you want on it as you can.
SMITTY wrote:Yeah, Kimber is like a '14 Cadillac ... but you can get around just fine in a 60 year old Ford.
I paid around $500 for my 1911 - it's an Auto Ordinance, made right here in Worcester, MA by Kahr. One of the few and dwindling manufacturers left in the city ...
I like to stick with American guns - not that the foreign ones are bad - it's just my thing. I think Glocks are some of the best shooting guns out there, but I don't own one. Not just because they're nearly impossible to get in MA, & because of that, cost a fortune here (thanks to our moronic state government, and their "list" of "non-compliant" guns ) ... but because I like my 1911-style pistols. You have to work at doing something stupid to get a negligent discharge with a 1911.
Flyer5 wrote:IOF think about looking up a good pistol self defense course as well if you haven't already. You can go to NRA website http://www.nrainstructors.org/searchcourse.aspx orother searches.
I am trying to convince my wife to go next time. At least for self defense in the home.She is not much for shooting but she is on the fence and may do it.