Gun Advice?
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My wife took a Snub training class by Michael de Bethencourt at the Smith & Wesson factory range. Was very spendy, but HIGHLY recommended. I felt more at ease after the stuff she learned there. She's a warrior! Good stuff to know in today's world.
Thanks for the compliments on my 870 fellas.
Thanks for the compliments on my 870 fellas.
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Build your own guns ! Gov't requirements ? What gov't?
I don't need no stinking gov't..
I don't need no stinking gov't..
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So, my plan for today only half worked. I went to the gun shop, handled a few guns and am decided on the 870, it's a damn nice shotgun. I however, am not getting a 12 gauge I'm going to get a 20 for now. I thought I was doing great in that I didn't order one right then and there. Then the subject turned to .45s.
The guy started to laugh and said, 'funny you mention Taurus. A guy walked in here yesterday afternoon and traded his 1911 for another gun. I was just about to list this on gun broker.' He walks in the back and comes out with a Taurus 1911 and puts it on the counter. 'I don't usually stock any pistols I just order them as people want them. I was going to list it for $400.'
I picked it up, looked it over, liked the way it felt. "I'll take it."
Needless to say, my wife was not happy. 'You said you were just going to look and then wait till next month?'
I just couldn't help it. They list out between $600-$800 on Taurus' website.
I'm not really sure if $400 was a good deal or not but I just couldn't pass it up.
Oh, you can just see the box of .45 in the top picture. I also don't know why the second PUC is upside down. It's not that way on my phone.
The guy started to laugh and said, 'funny you mention Taurus. A guy walked in here yesterday afternoon and traded his 1911 for another gun. I was just about to list this on gun broker.' He walks in the back and comes out with a Taurus 1911 and puts it on the counter. 'I don't usually stock any pistols I just order them as people want them. I was going to list it for $400.'
I picked it up, looked it over, liked the way it felt. "I'll take it."
Needless to say, my wife was not happy. 'You said you were just going to look and then wait till next month?'
I just couldn't help it. They list out between $600-$800 on Taurus' website.
I'm not really sure if $400 was a good deal or not but I just couldn't pass it up.
Oh, you can just see the box of .45 in the top picture. I also don't know why the second PUC is upside down. It's not that way on my phone.
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I have both the 870 20 gauge and a Tarsus 9mm. I am very happy with both. This is my second Tarsus. I also have a Tarsus .38 5 shot revolver. I've had that gun for about 10 years without a problem. The Tarsus 9mm has a smaller frame then a lot of 9mms and fits my hand perfectly. I've never had a problem with the 870 or either Tarsus although I do have an issue with assembling the 870. There is a tricky spring that you have to pinch in just the right way to put the magazine/receiver together and I can't seem to be able to do it every time. DK can but I'm hit and miss. I got the 870 20 gauge because its a good home defense weapon and doesn't have a big recoil. In a pinch I could take down a deer if I had to. Mine came with a smaller "fowl" barrel, too. I think I'm pretty will set for home defense or emergency food acquisition. Lisa
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I've watched a bunch of videos about taking the spring out of the magazine. It does seem like a pain; the one video I watched the guy tried a few times to get it out. Then when he finally ended up getting it out the end cap flew across the room.lowfog01 wrote:I have both the 870 20 gauge and a Tarsus 9mm. I am very happy with both. This is my second Tarsus. I also have a Tarsus .38 5 shot revolver. I've had that gun for about 10 years without a problem. The Tarsus 9mm has a smaller frame then a lot of 9mms and fits my hand perfectly. I've never had a problem with the 870 or either Tarsus although I do have an issue with assembling the 870. There is a tricky spring that you have to pinch in just the right way to put the magazine/receiver together and I can't seem to be able to do it every time. DK can but I'm hit and miss. I got the 870 20 gauge because its a good home defense weapon and doesn't have a big recoil. In a pinch I could take down a deer if I had to. Mine came with a smaller "fowl" barrel, too. I think I'm pretty will set for home defense or emergency food acquisition. Lisa
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I left this out because to much info at once from one source can be annoying.
I disagree with the 20 gauge logic because......
If you want or need a 12, the 20 won't do, ever.
If you want a 20 and have a 12, you can easily use light loads.
We grew up with .410's for rabbits as kids, graduated straight to 12's for everything. There is a load for anything you want to accomplish with the 12 but you cant make it a 10. Why on earth would you need a 10?
I won 2 of the Mossberg 955? 3 1/2 inch magnum turkey guns at NWTF banquets. I traded them immediately for something I wanted. They rattled and clanked and the stocks were hollow plastic and they worked like they were made of stamped sheetmetal......yup they were. I am actually in need of another shotgun as I gave my old semi-auto Rem to my son back in Maine and I will be getting an OLD 870 or maybe an Ithaca if I can find a good one. (old one that is)
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I disagree with the 20 gauge logic because......
If you want or need a 12, the 20 won't do, ever.
If you want a 20 and have a 12, you can easily use light loads.
We grew up with .410's for rabbits as kids, graduated straight to 12's for everything. There is a load for anything you want to accomplish with the 12 but you cant make it a 10. Why on earth would you need a 10?
I won 2 of the Mossberg 955? 3 1/2 inch magnum turkey guns at NWTF banquets. I traded them immediately for something I wanted. They rattled and clanked and the stocks were hollow plastic and they worked like they were made of stamped sheetmetal......yup they were. I am actually in need of another shotgun as I gave my old semi-auto Rem to my son back in Maine and I will be getting an OLD 870 or maybe an Ithaca if I can find a good one. (old one that is)
Kevin
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The new 20 ga slug guns by Savage are sweet - hit dead nuts at 100+ yards. Pretty impressive. Rifled barrel, so no shot in these.
It's no 12, but still great for home defense - will make one hell of a hole! A .410 ain't half bad for that either with some of those new multiple-sized buckshot rounds they have out now.
It's no 12, but still great for home defense - will make one hell of a hole! A .410 ain't half bad for that either with some of those new multiple-sized buckshot rounds they have out now.
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The 1911 looks nice. $400 probably wasn’t a bad price.
You can never have too many guns, right? A good home defense gun can be fabricated from a double barrel 12 gauge and a hacksaw.
You can never have too many guns, right? A good home defense gun can be fabricated from a double barrel 12 gauge and a hacksaw.
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Agree with most of what is said here, for me the 12 ga, for the wife the 20. I have heard the best self defense gun is the one I can put in my hand First!
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IMO neither.I'm On Fire wrote:At the end of April the beginning of this month I was in vacation and I applied for my firearms license. I just got a call from the local PD saying my paperwork is done and I can go pick it up. I'm not 100% sure if that means my lice se is in or if it means all the clerical stuff is done and I have to take the paperwork to the state police to initiate the background check. I'm thinking the later and I have to take the paperwork over the state police for the background check.
But, in the off chance that is actually the license I would like some opinions on some guns I've been looking at.
The first is a Remington 870; I've talked to a few people and they all say it is a very good shotgun. What's your opinion on it?
The second is a Taurus 1911, anyone here have any experience with Taurus International?
For home use, a Stoeger 12g coach gun.
For carry, my HK P7M8 or my S&W 686.
The HK P7 is hands down the safest, most accurate carry gun ever made.
The 686 is .357 mag and kind of dwarfs the .45 ballistics.
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"The 686 is .357 mag and kind of dwarfs the .45 ballistics."
I thought the 125gr jhp in .357 had the best record for 1 shot stops? I'm sure the muzzle blast in a snub nose will render you a little deaf and blind for a few seconds if you had to fire it inside a house.
I thought the 125gr jhp in .357 had the best record for 1 shot stops? I'm sure the muzzle blast in a snub nose will render you a little deaf and blind for a few seconds if you had to fire it inside a house.
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Anybody have an opinion on Snap Caps? Of course I plan on range time and classes but for those days I can't get to the range would getting some snap caps to practice with be good?
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While that may or may not be the case, many of them are six or seven mortgage payments for one pistol. Too rich for my pocketbook regardless of how nice it is.Gekko wrote:
The HK P7 is hands down the safest, most accurate carry gun ever made.
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Snap caps are a very good training tool for not flinching. Have used them and still do in the winter when the cold keeps me from the range. Just remember "I thought it had snap caps in it" Is not a good legal defense.
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I picked up five A-Zoom .45 Auto snap caps. Not sure if it's me but I've had them jam up in the gun. Gave me a good chance to clear them. Out of curiosity I compared them to a .45 ACP cartridge from the box and they A-Zoom snap caps are a bit smaller than the real thing.GA cracker wrote:Snap caps are a very good training tool for not flinching. Have used them and still do in the winter when the cold keeps me from the range. Just remember "I thought it had snap caps in it" Is not a good legal defense.
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I ran all five through one mag then I split them into two mags. My stance is terrible and I'm sure I'm not holding the gun proper. Definitely need to work on that. I'm going to run up to the range hopefully next weekend and try some live rounds. Will more than likely get smacked in the face with the slide but live and learn.
I'm also having a bitch of a time finding a lock for the case. I've gone through three pad locks. And none fit. Going to start looking for a short cable lock.