Gun advice?

Re: Gun advice?

PostBy: cabinover On: Mon May 26, 2014 8:28 am

I'm On Fire wrote:
My stance is terrible and I'm sure I'm not holding the gun proper. Definitely need to work on that. I'm going to run up to the range hopefully next weekend and try some live rounds. Will more than likely get smacked in the face with the slide but live and learn.


If you're getting smacked in the face you're doing something very wrong unless you have a 2' scope mounted on top of the pistol. :lol:

Take a cup of coffee and watch some of this guy's videos. Hickock45 on YouTube. Here is a good primer for starting out shooters. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGYf9AZlSyU

The guy has a ton of material available, including how to hold that semi-auto so the slide doesn't take skin off or break your thumb when you shoot it.
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Re: Gun advice?

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Mon May 26, 2014 8:38 am

cabinover wrote:
I'm On Fire wrote:
My stance is terrible and I'm sure I'm not holding the gun proper. Definitely need to work on that. I'm going to run up to the range hopefully next weekend and try some live rounds. Will more than likely get smacked in the face with the slide but live and learn.


If you're getting smacked in the face you're doing something very wrong unless you have a 2' scope mounted on top of the pistol. :lol:

Take a cup of coffee and watch some of this guy's videos. Hickock45 on YouTube. Here is a good primer for starting out shooters. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGYf9AZlSyU

The guy has a ton of material available, including how to hold that semi-auto so the slide doesn't take skin off or break your thumb when you shoot it.


Thanks for the link.
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Re: Gun advice?

PostBy: KLook On: Mon May 26, 2014 8:41 am

I would offer that having a 12 for you and a 20 for the lady is not wise. Unless you are bird hunting. The military goes to great lengths to have "commonality" to avoid confusion in a fight. Let me offer this scenario. If she picks up your 12 and tries to stuff her 20's in it, no go. If she picks up her 20 and tries to stuff your 12's in it, no go. Same for you. If she picks up your 12 and stuffs her lighter loaded 12's in it no problem. And vice versa. If she puts hot(your) 12's in her gun, she will get kicked hard but still be in the fight. Yes, you have your head about you and this is not pointing at your or your wives ability. But why add another dimension to an already chaotic scene? Especially for a novice?

Last piece I looked at about self defense 12 gauge loads was that they are so powerful that even seasoned professionals do not want to practice with them. :shock:
Look up Guntests.com or GunRepors.com. This is a great magazine I get monthly. It is just white paper with no non sense. No advertising so they don't have to be nice about a shitty product. Cost me $24/year.

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Re: Gun advice?

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon May 26, 2014 12:19 pm

A great training tool is - go to the range with a buddy & a double action revolver, preferably a large-caliber one. Have him load it randomly, or not at all. Grab a .45ACP empty brass case with you to balance on the end of the barrel. That thing should only tip over when it actually fires. If it tips over without going BANG, then you need to work on your trigger control.

That'll be $250 please ... :lol: :P
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Re: Gun advice?

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Mon May 26, 2014 2:09 pm

SMITTY wrote:A great training tool is - go to the range with a buddy & a double action revolver, preferably a large-caliber one. Have him load it randomly, or not at all. Grab a .45ACP empty brass case with you to balance on the end of the barrel. That thing should only tip over when it actually fires. If it tips over without going BANG, then you need to work on your trigger control.

That'll be $250 please ... :lol: :P

I actually just came back from the range. Of course I wasn't allowed to shoot because I'm not a member and I can only sign up to become a member the first Sunday of every month. And I won't be able to go shooting until July 2nd because June 2nd I'll be in PA at a Dirks Bentley concert. Oh well, just as well I've only got 20 rounds of .45 so it'll give me a chance to get more.

The cost of the membership is $175 + $70 for the "orientation class". Does that sound like the standard pricing or should I look for another range? I went to the one in my town.

I can actually do the casing at the end of the barrel thing at home. With snap caps. Yeah I know it's not the same as a live round but....
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Re: Gun advice?

PostBy: GA cracker On: Mon May 26, 2014 2:37 pm

Standard pricing depends on supply and demand. I pay 50.00 a year for me and my wife. Several ranges for pistol, shotgun, rifle, trap shooting and long range (600 yds) as well. I think I am lucky.
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Re: Gun advice?

PostBy: KLook On: Mon May 26, 2014 8:38 pm

Yes GA, you are lucky. That is great pricing. It will cost me $200 to join the Chattanooga gun club, but it is worth it. They have nice ranges and competitions. I am looking forward to getting my old 513T Rem target 22 down here to compete for fun.

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Re: Gun advice?

PostBy: SMITTY On: Mon May 26, 2014 9:11 pm

Our club is about $70 for a family, a bit less single. I can bring guests, but only ONCE. Anyone can shoot, as long as they are accompanied by a member. Great place. LTC classes there are about the same price, and you get live fire! Most classes in MA don't even have real firearms in the class, let alone live fire. 8-)
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Re: Gun advice?

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Tue May 27, 2014 7:03 am

SMITTY wrote:Our club is about $70 for a family, a bit less single. I can bring guests, but only ONCE. Anyone can shoot, as long as they are accompanied by a member. Great place. LTC classes there are about the same price, and you get live fire! Most classes in MA don't even have real firearms in the class, let alone live fire. 8-)


I did look at the classes the range offers; all of which are with NRA instructors and the pricing runs from $180-$300 for all kinds of classes from basic gun handling all the way to firing and tearing down.
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Re: Gun advice?

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Tue May 27, 2014 8:18 pm

Sorry for more newbish questions but what's everyone using to clean and lubricate their firearms? Recommendations?

I'm thinking white lithium grease for the rails and Mobil-1 (5w30, 10w30? Or something heavier?)

But what do you all use to clean your guns?

The reason I'm thinking white lithium and Mobil-1 is because I have an over abundance of the stuff I bought for various other things.
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Re: Gun advice?

PostBy: gaw On: Tue May 27, 2014 9:02 pm

I know a lot of guys used WD40 for years. I used Hoppes gun oil and Break Free CLP. I would not use automotive lubricants but a very lightweight oil would probably work satisfactory. Be careful with lube because too much can be worse than none at all. I would not use any type of grease unless the manufacturer recommends it and only on the surfaces they recommend.
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Re: Gun advice?

PostBy: KLook On: Tue May 27, 2014 10:47 pm

WD40 is not a lubricant. W stands for water and D stand for displacement . 40 stands for the amount of tries it took to get it right. Some sort of grease is used on 1911 slides, not sure which one. There are some great synthetics out there. There are to many gun oils to name and many of them are snake oil like wd40. Even Rem oil is not what it claims to be according to independent testing. Great advice on not over oiling and check what Taurus recommends for the slide.

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Re: Gun advice?

PostBy: GA cracker On: Wed May 28, 2014 4:29 am

Break Free CPL, the weapon does not need to be soaked. Moisture is the enemy.
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Re: Gun advice?

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Wed May 28, 2014 7:10 am

KLook wrote:WD40 is not a lubricant. W stands for water and D stand for displacement . 40 stands for the amount of tries it took to get it right. Some sort of grease is used on 1911 slides, not sure which one. There are some great synthetics out there. There are to many gun oils to name and many of them are snake oil like wd40. Even Rem oil is not what it claims to be according to independent testing. Great advice on not over oiling and check what Taurus recommends for the slide.

kevin


I would never use WD-40 on a gun..I barely use it on hinges in my house. I did however just look up the manual for my gun and it doesn't mention anywhere what specific oils and lubricants to use. It just says to use lubricants. On a whim last night I pulled the gun apart and noticed that the shop I bought it from used Lithium grease on the slide rails. There wasn't much of it so I'm assuming he only used a few dabs of it. Everything else was lubricated with a thin layer of oil but I'm not sure what was used.
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Re: Gun advice?

PostBy: SMITTY On: Wed May 28, 2014 7:15 am

Kroil is good - also one of the best penetrating fluids .. but for that I just use acetone & tranny fluid. Kroil is great for firearms though.

This stuff is great for the AR. It's a little heavy for the smaller pistols though, but good stuff nonetheless:
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