Gun advice?

Gun advice?

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Thu May 22, 2014 7:16 pm

At the end of April the beginning of this month I was in vacation and I applied for my firearms license. I just got a call from the local PD saying my paperwork is done and I can go pick it up. I'm not 100% sure if that means my lice se is in or if it means all the clerical stuff is done and I have to take the paperwork to the state police to initiate the background check. I'm thinking the later and I have to take the paperwork over the state police for the background check.

But, in the off chance that is actually the license I would like some opinions on some guns I've been looking at.

The first is a Remington 870; I've talked to a few people and they all say it is a very good shotgun. What's your opinion on it?

The second is a Taurus 1911, anyone here have any experience with Taurus International?
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Re: Gun advice?

PostBy: Sunny Boy On: Thu May 22, 2014 7:39 pm

Which model 870?

Some are good, like the Wingmaster, however, the cheap Express models are so-so. The bead blasted black mat finish of many Express models makes the action stiff and hard to work. Seen many guys on skeet and sporting clays fields have to pass up doing doubles because they can't shuck the action fast enough to hit the second bird.

The Wingmaster being the top of the line has a much smoother action. But, some guys (me included) don't shot them well because of more felt recoil for them. Reason being is that the top of the Wingmaster stocks tend to be on the narrow side and hit harder in the cheek bone. If your face recoil sensitive you may find they're not fun to shoot.

If you want a shotgun, figure out what your going to use it for the most and what models are best suited to that use. I do some hunting but mostly clay sports. I grew up with pump guns so all I have is pump guns and use them for both hunting and clays, but few guys can work a pump gun shooting doubles in clay sports. An auto may be a better choice for you if your leaning towards clays.

I would recommend that, once you figure out what type action will work best for the shooting you'll be doing, you should go try as many different makes as you can before you plunk your money down. With any shotgun, your eye is the rear sight. Get the wrong fitting gun and it's like shooting with the sights way off. All you do is get frustrated. Get a gun that fits you correctly and it's like magic.

Can't help with the Taurus, I've only used Colt 1911's.

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Re: Gun advice?

PostBy: plumb-r On: Thu May 22, 2014 7:46 pm

Both are fine guns but you really have to know what the planned use is to pass judgement. Hunting, target shooting, self defense ??? Are you planning on getting a carry license? There are lots of questions coming, and I'm sure everyone has their idea of whats best. Join the NRA if you haven't all ready. :)
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Re: Gun advice?

PostBy: mozz On: Thu May 22, 2014 7:50 pm

Why do you need a license for a shotgun?
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Re: Gun advice?

PostBy: tjnamtiw On: Thu May 22, 2014 7:53 pm

Taurus pistols IMHO are well worth the money and any 1911 model has the advantages of many safeties where most of the 'coveted' Glocks have no real safeties except the one on the trigger. That's why you see the YouTube videos of cops shooting themselves in the foot or butt! :) I admit I'm partial to the 1911 style having had one in the Navy and putting many rounds through it. Also, 45 ammo is reasonably priced and has good stopping power. You'll probably have it for a 'end table' safety device so when you actually NEED it, the adrenaline will be flowing and those safeties will help you to keep from shooting everything but what you want. Also a fairly heavy trigger pull would be an advantage in this situation. Got that advice from a policeman friend.

You need a firearms license to buy a shotgun??? Holy crap! Here in Georgia we only need one to carry concealed and they've done away with fingerprinting.
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Re: Gun advice?

PostBy: tjnamtiw On: Thu May 22, 2014 7:56 pm

It also would hurt to find a gun dealer with an indoor range that rents guns. Try a box through all of those that suit your fancy. We have one locally that even has machine guns to shoot. :)
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Re: Gun advice?

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Thu May 22, 2014 8:06 pm

mozz wrote:Why do you need a license for a shotgun?

Because I live in the socialist state of New Jersey. You need a license for everything.

As for the question of what is my intended use, well I don't hunt but do live a few minutes from a range so it'll be for range use and home defense primarily. And I was actually looking at an Express in an 18" barrel. I have also looked at the Mossberg 590; just no particular model.

I have a few friends all with 1911's and I've always loved the way they feel. I did briefly look at the Colt 1991 but I'm leaning more towards the Taurus mainly because of all the safety features, there are a ton of them.
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Re: Gun advice?

PostBy: I'm On Fire On: Thu May 22, 2014 8:11 pm

tjnamtiw wrote:It also would hurt to find a gun dealer with an indoor range that rents guns. Try a box through all of those that suit your fancy. We have one locally that even has machine guns to shoot. :)

This is Jersey. There are no FFLs that have ranges to my knowledge.
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Re: Gun advice?

PostBy: Richard S. On: Thu May 22, 2014 8:17 pm

plumb-r wrote:Are you planning on getting a carry license?


Carry license in NJ? ROFL

I feel for those in NJ, those purchases could of been made here in PA with a trip to the gun store and background check at the store that takes a few minutes. It costs a few bucks.

As far as what to buy if it's for your home get a shotgun, just don't go shooting it through doors. :P

I'm looking at a Saiga 12 purchase myself.

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Re: Gun advice?

PostBy: carlherrnstein On: Thu May 22, 2014 8:20 pm

I'm kind of partial to rifles but, given your location I would get a shotgun of some kind. Shotguns are fairly safe from confiscation. Its hard to go wrong with a Mossberg 500.
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Re: Gun advice?

PostBy: cabinover On: Thu May 22, 2014 8:29 pm

I hope that any Taurus you buy functions better than the .22 I bought new about 3 months ago. What a POS. Still waiting for a new magazine so I may be able to fire more than two rounds before a FTF, FTE, or caught in between.

My son bought a S&W SD9VE not long ago. Very nice sidearm as far as I can tell. He's run 100+ rounds through it with not one problem. Double stack as well and still fits in your hand.

I held a Ruger SR9 at the last gun show I went to. Could not fit my hand around the handle and touch middle finger to thumb, nor could I eject the magazine without moving the gun in my hand with the other hand. Just a heads up, not sure if it was the grips or not. BTW, I have normal sized hands with long fingers.

Do yourself a favor and hit a gun show. I was surprised at just how many different handgun "feels" there is available for us.
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Re: Gun advice?

PostBy: tjnamtiw On: Thu May 22, 2014 8:39 pm

cabinover wrote:I hope that any Taurus you buy functions better than the .22 I bought new about 3 months ago. What a POS. Still waiting for a new magazine so I may be able to fire more than two rounds before a FTF, FTE, or caught in between.

My son bought a S&W SD9VE not long ago. Very nice sidearm as far as I can tell. He's run 100+ rounds through it with not one problem. Double stack as well and still fits in your hand.

I held a Ruger SR9 at the last gun show I went to. Could not fit my hand around the handle and touch middle finger to thumb, nor could I eject the magazine without moving the gun in my hand with the other hand. Just a heads up, not sure if it was the grips or not. BTW, I have normal sized hands with long fingers.

Do yourself a favor and hit a gun show. I was surprised at just how many different handgun "feels" there is available for us.


I have the S&W too and it IS a good shooting gun but no safeties except the useless trigger one. The only REAL safety on it is to not chamber a round. The 1911 has 5 safeties, if I recall correctly. At least the Colt does.
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Re: Gun advice?

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Thu May 22, 2014 8:46 pm

Richard S. wrote:
plumb-r wrote:Are you planning on getting a carry license?


Carry license in NJ? ROFL

I feel for those in NJ, those purchases could of been made here in PA with a trip to the gun store and background check at the store that takes a few minutes. It costs a few bucks.

As far as what to buy if it's for your home get a shotgun, just don't go shooting it through doors. :P

I'm looking at a Saiga 12 purchase myself.




There is one in the Papershop I was looking at. :)
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Re: Gun advice?

PostBy: Flyer5 On: Thu May 22, 2014 8:51 pm

For a carry pistol I like the grip safety. I carry a Springfield XD40SC. I like the way it shoots. I also like the Para executive carry. It fits my hand nice but a little on the rich side. The thing with the grip safety there is no thought to release it and when holstering it is done by just keeping your hand off the safety. No Glock leg. :) If you like the 1911 for carry but not the size here is another option http://www.springfield-armory.com/1911-series/ Again pricey.
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Re: Gun advice?

PostBy: tjnamtiw On: Thu May 22, 2014 8:56 pm

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